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Location:

Dogtown,Ut,

Member Since:

Jan 02, 2006

Gender:

Male

Goal Type:

Other

Running Accomplishments:

PRs: 2:26:29 marathon @ St.George '14; 1:09:55 1/2 mar. '08; 31:00 10k '07

Short-Term Running Goals:

Love running now.

Long-Term Running Goals:

Love running forever!

Personal:

My perfect day would include a run through the desert, time with my wife and girls, tasty homemade meals, and a nice nap in the middle.

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Total Distance
3919.70
Total Distance
8.00

MillCreek Trail- ran fairly slow up the trail, so I decided to negative split to make myself get going. Easily did it and it felt good to get up and going a bit quicker then the last few days. Ave. 7:07 and 1 1/2 miles at marathon pace.

W-157 (after breakfast)

RHR-40

Total Distance
8.30

Out on the Church Rock Trail, but took a wrong turn and ended up coming back before planned. I really like that trail, but there are so many little trails that go out it is easy to get lost. Pretty slow and easy again.

W-153

RHR-42

Total Distance
9.25

mile repeats - 2.4 mile warmup around Washington, then cemetary miles with 1/2 mile recovery, and then Washinton warmup backward as cooldown.

1-5:28 a bit disappointed as I wanted to really burn up these repeats since I was planning on only doing three. But as I thought about it, I realized it was the fastest first repeat I had done on this course and took into account that I hadn't done them for a few weeks, it was a bit colder in the evening, and my GPS ran it a bit long (I think)

2-5:21 decided I wanted to get the next two with one under :25 and one under :20, so I really pushed hard. Again the GPS ran this mile long, but the time was good.

3-5:12 really tried to make myself keep working throughout each section of the mile, even the tough uphill ending, and it paid off. The time was strong (quickest ever on this course). The GPS also hit about when it should have (maybe a couple seconds early). What I should do is just drive it and then not worry about if the Garmin is long or short (usually, however, it hasn't been that much of a problem)

Overall, happy about the workout. This course is (estimated) at least 10 seconds harder then running a metric on a track. So today's miles showed some good hard work. I need to keep pushing these times down to below 5:10's and then start adding more to be where I want to for mile repeats.

W-154

RHR-41

Comments
From Steve Hooper on Thu, Jan 04, 2007 at 09:43:52

Dave, Way to go on that last repeat. Even if the GPS was off by a couple seconds, it's an excellent time!

I think you have a good game plan for trying to push those repeats below 5:10 and then adding more.

Are you going to be able to run at 4pm today?

From Superfly on Thu, Jan 04, 2007 at 10:02:33

Holt,

I just wanted to check with you once more to see if you wanted to run this race in AZ on March 30-31.

Check it out here www.ragnarrelay.com and let me know. I have free rooms so we wouldn't have to pay for that.

From Dustin Ence on Thu, Jan 04, 2007 at 10:27:04

Good job Dave.

I started the week off, good then had the warts froze again on my feet, so now I'm back to hobbling around, hopefully I can run by this weekend.

From Paul Petersen on Thu, Jan 04, 2007 at 10:42:30

Nice work! By the way, the race that Clyde mentioned has the entry fee comped as well.

From Bill on Thu, Jan 04, 2007 at 14:57:59

Dave,

when your ready to move let me know. I would be happy to help.

From superfly on Thu, Jan 04, 2007 at 19:28:20

The race starts on March 30 and runs to the 31. So your in and Cappy can run the track meet.

Total Distance
9.00

Green Springs/Powerline/Middleton Trail - could feel the fatigue of the harder miles yesterday. My pace at first, however, was okay for recovery. It was hitting right around 7:10 for the first three miles. Then on the trail I slowed considerably, but enjoyed being out. Right now I am having a tough time focusing on anything but the house which makes it tough with school and running. But once I get running, I am usually able to relax and push the stress of getting the remodel done on time to the back of my brain at least and try and enjoy some of the run.

W-152.5

RHR-40

Total Distance
10.50

Junction. Didn't want to run at all today. I have feeling a little blah about running the last few days, and it came out today. Had to convince myself to go. Actually ran pretty well until I ran into a freezing hard head wind up around coral canyon that basically stood me up and stopped me in my tracks. Then of course, the wind stopped on the way back.

W-151

RHR-42

Total Distance
13.50

Club run in the chilly morning. Ran out around Bloomington and up into Bloomington Hills and then back on the trail. Overall ave. was at 6:40 which felt very good. I was a bit tired at the end, but I hadn't got up and ran quick for awhile. It was also very nice to run with the club again. Although I am mostly a solitary runner, it is real nice to have a group now and then that you enjoy being around. It made a good ending to my week of running.

W-147 (taken after my run, but before breakfast)

RHR-42

Sunday:

W-152

RHR-49

spent the night throwing up with my daughter - felt sick most of the day.

Goals for next week: kick it back a little on mileage to let legs rest for the race. Run a FAST 1/2 - going for 1:12. I think I can do it, but I still have some nerves and issues. All I can do is try.

Comments
From Steve Hooper on Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 13:18:48

How are you feeling?

I hope you guys are doing better.

It's no fun blowing chunks.

Total Distance
0.00

decided to take a day off after being sick yesterday. Still not feeling that great by the evening.

W-153

RHR-41

Total Distance
0.00

Woke up feeling very sick again. I thought I had beat this flu bug, but it keeps coming back. Kept me out of school and in bed pretty much the whole day. Has me a bit worried for the race. I need to get feeling better now, so I can get my energy up and a few runs under me this week.

W-152

RHR-61

Comments
From BILL on Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 10:16:17

I WAS FEELING THE SAME WAY YESTERDAY. YOUR hr IS WAY UP. SO YOU NEED REST.

From Steve Hooper on Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 10:22:44

You and Bill are getting me nervous.

I hope you're feeling better by Sat. It's no fun feeling funny.

From Dustin Ence on Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 10:24:51

Sorry to hear you are not feeling that great. Looks like the forecast is calling for pretty cold temperature on Saturday. I'm debating what to wear?

From Superfly on Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 11:02:42

Hope you get feeling better. You've got some bad timing with this thing.

Good luck this weekend.

Total Distance
6.00

Felt a little better until lunch, but decided I needed to run anyway.  Went with Ruth up to Green Springs Trailhead.  Noticed that the developers are tearing up more of the desert up there to build more houses and roads.  I wish they could get past the greed of money and let the area stay beautiful for what it is.  I mean there are over 1000 homes for sale in the St. George area, plenty of places for people to pick from right now without ruining the landscape.  Anyway, I am done ranting - for now!
About 4 steps into the run I began to worry.  Stomach was turning and things were churning.  But after about a 1/2 mile it calmed down a bit.  And that's the way it went for the entire run - about 1/2 mile feeling good, then 1/2 feeling pretty crappy. 
Still feeling crappy this morning (thursday).  I don't think I have ever had a flu bug hold on this long.  Any Secret Remedies out there?  I will try anything to get feeling better for this weekend.
W-152
RHR-57

Comments
From Bill on Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 13:15:44

just rest and drink lots of fluid.

From Bill on Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 13:39:04

Im feeling better. we are meeting at the store if you feel up to it.

Total Distance
0.00

Nothing today - stomach still giving quite a bit of problems.

W-151

RHR-47
 

Total Distance
0.00

The race? Why I am sick still? I am very frustrated... maybe even mad about this whole thing. You train hard and try and get ready for something and BAM just like that it is all blown out of the water. Even when I got sick initially Sunday morning I thought - well at least I'll be better in a few days at the most and have most of the week to get my strength back up and be feeling good for the 1/2. But now the sickness has held on clear up to today and I don't know why it would get any better tonight. I'll try to run a few today and see if my stomach cooperates at all and if I even have any energy to try and run hard.

FRUSTRATING!

W-150

RHR-50

ended up not running today

Comments
From Dustin Ence on Fri, Jan 12, 2007 at 09:56:27

Hey Dave, sorry to hear you're still feeling down, Steve wasn't feeling very good on our run yesterday was also complaining of stomach issues. I am going to give the race a shot tomorrow, still some pain on my plantar wart, but it is bearable. Hope you get to feeling better.

From Bill on Fri, Jan 12, 2007 at 16:09:57

I am also sorry to hear that you are still not feeling well. All you can do is see how you feel tomorrow morning. there will be other races.

From Bill on Fri, Jan 12, 2007 at 16:29:09

The key here is that "it" refers not to the short-term thrill of a single race, but the long-term goal of sustained world-class level performance. "It isn’t easy to have the discipline to lay off racing," she says, "but it always pays off. " May 2006 issue of Running Times Magazine

Race: Painter's 1/2 marathon (13.1 Miles) 01:14:42, Place overall: 2, Place in age division: 2
Total Distance
17.10

Painter's Half

Went to bed not knowing if I was going to run or not - woke up feeling pretty good. I was excited about not having the stomach turning and decided to just give it a shot. Warmed up a few miles in the freezing cold, stomach turned a little but I figured I would still work to get my goal time and see what happened. Went out pretty quick with Hobie (but not too quick - he is a smart experienced racer and knows what to do to run fast). He easily pulled away at about 1 1/2 miles. I let him go because I was hitting times about 15-20 seconds a mile faster than planned already and didn't need to kill myself early - 5:30's instead of 5:50-5:40. The problem was then I was hung out to dry. Hobie ran hard and hit a 1:07, 3rd place ended up a few minutes behind me, so there I was. Kept running hard, despite the desire to slow down and give into the IDEA that I had been sick (I was proud of myself for that). Was still on pace for my 1:12 until the Bloomington loop. On these miles (8-11) I could feel the lack of energy in my body and my legs really tightened up. My stomach also started churning and I wondered if I was going to lose it. Luckily no. Cold I don't think was too much of an issue - more the depletion of fuels my flu had taken from me. At this point I was planning on hitting 5:20's, but I actually only needed to hit 5:30's because of the stronger first miles. I couldn't go, however, and no matter how much I pushed I was still only hitting high 5:50's (but nothing into the 6:00's - so a small victory). Back on the trail I finished at the same 5:50's pace for the last 2. I kept pushing even though I had lost my 1:12 I could still get a PR and under 1:15 which would be pleasing. Ended up 2nd a very distant 2nd to Hobie, but I was happy about the race under the circumstances. Now to keep recovering and get ready for Boston. Time 1:14:42 a 5:42 mile ave.

To cool down, I ran back down the race a mile and helped Ruth finish - but she didn't need it. She was flying and caught the 2nd woman to finish 2nd woman overall and a time of 1:30 (very good for a high school girl). I think this has provided a very strong base for her track season this year.

W-149

RHR-43

(15.1 miles were in Ohana Racers - 2 in NB's)

Comments
From Dustin Ence on Tue, Jan 16, 2007 at 10:36:33

Once again great job on the race and way to focus after having a tough week. I think Boston willl be a great experience for you.

From Bill on Tue, Jan 16, 2007 at 18:28:03

http://www.runnersweb.com/running/rw_news_frameset.html?http://www.runnersweb.com/running/news/rw_news_20070114_RRW_Houston.html

new goal for ya!

good race saturday.

From Superfly on Tue, Jan 16, 2007 at 22:41:44

Good job in the race this weekend. Now we need to go out to Boston and do some damage. Top 500 out of 20,000 or something else cool.

Total Distance
0.00

Finishing the move today, so I wasn't sure how many miles I would get in.  Then when working on some plumbing, I decided to try and take my eye out with a screwdriver and the headache that caused put me out of commission for the day.

Not sore from the race today.  I kind of like the feeling that I ran hard and can still be functional. 

W-150

RHR-41 

Total Distance
3.00

We were supposed to be closing on our old house today so I didn't have time to run after school.  Came home to find out that it got bumped to tomorrow.  So I got the treadmill set up - downstairs and not in the garage! - and put a movie on for the girls and went 3 miles at 7:30.  Run was pretty good.  Did feel a little bit of fatigue from the race.

*treadmill will always be set at 1% unless notes*

W-151

RHR-41

weight has been a little low coming off the flu and I am always hungry, but heartrate has stabliized. 

Comments
From Bill on Wed, Jan 17, 2007 at 14:53:15

Again you did real well in the race congrats. I am glad your finally getting into your new home.

From Dustin Ence on Wed, Jan 17, 2007 at 15:52:38

Hey Dave

The Dam to Dam race is out at Sand Hollow. The race goes from one side of the dam around the lake to the other. Nice 5 mile race, and last year classic sports gave away quite a bit of money to winners in each division.

From Bill on Wed, Jan 17, 2007 at 16:13:09

Dave, Dam to Dam is on the 1oth next month. There is another race called Mesquite 10 miler on Jan 27th. I Ran it last year. Pretty good course.

Total Distance
5.00

On treadmill - started it for a mile at 7:30, then 1 at 7:13, 1 at 6:58, 1 at 6:44, 1 at 6:31.  Felt okay, treadmill does kind of get boring.  I used to be in a grove and would do a lot onger runs on it (during the hot summer, or early morning) but not having ran on it in a while has made me think about it too much and how long it takes to do a workout while going nowhere.

W-149.5

RHR-41 

Comments
From Dustin Ence on Thu, Jan 18, 2007 at 10:31:32

I hear you on the treadmill, last night it was too late and cold by the time I got home, so I did the treadmill thing. Put on some AC/DC, turned on Jeopardy on the T.V. and proceeded with the workout. I did change up the pace and the incline to make things more interesting and actually turned out to be a pretty good workout.

Total Distance
6.00

Treadmill - 1% at 6:58 - felt pretty good just cruising along. Didn't feel like I was working too hard and I am ready to bring the miles back up to 70-80 (where I want to be miles wise for Boston training). Next week I will get in some 800's or miles (I'm not sure. I need to outline my training plan for the next two months).

Weights this afternoon. 

W-149

RHR-41

Comments
From Sasha Pachev on Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 13:28:13

What is your max HR, and what is your tempo (threshhold) HR?

Also, how fast do you think you can run 100 meters all out right now?

Total Distance
9.00

Green Springs/Powerline/Middleton Trail - felt very good to get OUT and run somewhere again.  At the same time, I think the recovery was nice and today and tomorrow will hopefully get me geared up for a couple months of serious training.  I outlined my plan for Boston today and if I can hit a few good runs, I plan on running well there in April.  No watch today, just enjoyed the nice trail and decent weather.

W-148.5

RHR-40 

Total Distance
9.00

St. George Running Club run from Dixie Center into Bloomington Hills and up to 100 South then Tabernacle and down Main.  Felt pretty good.  I was a bit sore from weights Thursday and tired (from life) and it took awhile to get going, but Bill kept pulling me along.  Then the run ended right when I started feeling like I could go a bit.  I figured it was okay, however, and decided to just enjoy it for what it was.

W-149

RHR-45 (felt a little anxiety about life right when I woke up, tried to relax to get a good heart rate read,  but my mind always wanders)

Sunday:

W-155 (ate way too much crap food yesterday, so I hid the cookies and tried to do a little better today)

RHR-43 

Goals for next week:  Get serious about training again.  Hit some good mile repeats (see how I can do for this 5:00 mile stuff - it may kill me) and some solid hill (for about a month) and start working miles back up - I'll try around 60. 

Total Distance
7.00

AM - 3xmile repeats

Hit them on the treadmill today (decided that I am going to go for the 5:00 minute repeats Steve and I have talked about, so my best chance was on the treadmill where it is flat and I am forced to keep up or off - I did put the incline down to 0 because I figured I may need all the help I could get). 1 1/2 mile warmup. First 1/2 at 8:30 then next mile at 7:30.

1-did it! but it was tough. That thing was zooming and my legs got very tired. Had to hold onto the bars hear and there to help myself out (tried not to lift myself up and take weight off, rather just keep from flying off)

2-easier! barely used the bars at all and the legs were moving well. Breathing seemed less labored then the 1st

3-pumped myself up, told myself I could do it and did it. The easiest one yet. Maybe easy isn't the right term, but I didn't need to use the bars at all (just checked my heartrate at about .75 miles and it was 179 - 182 at same place on the 2nd repeat).

Pretty stoked though - Gives me a good start to all I want to accomplish this Spring.

With 1/2 recovery at 8:49 and 1 cooldown at 7:30 finished with 7 miles

Afternoon - weights (regular routine)

W-154

RHR-43 

Comments
From Dustin Enced on Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 10:15:59

Nice work. I'm pretty sure I would be flying off the back of the treadmill, if I tried such a workout right now.

From Superfly on Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 10:27:06

Good job getting it done early in the morning. That sounds like a fun way to use the treadmill- I have a hard time staying on the thing because it gets old so fast.

Have you made your Boston plans. Mik'L and I were working on it last night. I may just go alone.

From steve hooper on Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 12:16:16

If I tried that right now I think I'd have to put a mattress behind the machine, just in case.

It's good to see your legs have the turn-over this early in the season.

From Mik'L on Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 16:56:08

Hey Dave. Nice job on the race the other weekend. I'm so happy about Ruth too! That's awesome. Hey do you have the track schedule ready yet or even some meets planned? I'm trying to schedule out my life and that would really help (that is if you still want me to coach this year!). If so, please email me what you've got. That would help a lot! By the way, congrats on the house stuff!

From Mik'L on Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 20:43:49

I emailed you so you should have my address, but let me know if you didn't get it.

Total Distance
12.00

AM- 4 recovery miles on the treadmill. Started out at 8:34 and took it up to 7:30 in the first mile (incriments of .1 mph each .1 mile) to get warmed up. Then increased next three miles to 6:58. 1% incline. Felt okay. Not too much fatigue from yesterday's miles or soreness from the weight room. Heart rate during workout around 140

Afternoon- 8 on the River Run. Felt a bit fatigued and sore. Not a ton, but enough that I decided to just hold it back a little and let myself recover. Ave. pace was 7:03 and the miles were very even, most were 6:55-7:05 with one a little quicker down and one a little slower uphill.

W-152.5

RHR-39

Comments
From BILL on Tue, Jan 23, 2007 at 10:44:28

good job on the treadmill. smoking

From BILL on Tue, Jan 23, 2007 at 10:50:51

I am running mesquite. awards suck. but it is a nice ten miler.

From Ryan Woods on Tue, Jan 23, 2007 at 11:15:41

Thanks for the advice on the sock. I get occassional plantar problems off and on but it's never anything that requires time off. I think i'll invest in the sock though in hopes of speeding recovery time. seems like a great idea. Thanks!

From Bill on Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 10:56:56

did you decide to run the mesquite this weekend?

From Bill on Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 13:42:52

Dave,

I think you would win the race if you ran it. Nice plaque for the winner. the rest of us dogs just get a ugly ribbon.

From Steve Hooper on Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 14:08:19

Dave, when you have a second give me a call at the store or on my cell. I wan't to talk to you about the race this weekend.

St. George Running Center 435-628-7766

My Cell: 435-773-3245

Total Distance
8.15

4 x's Sunrise - warmup to the hill from PVHS

1st-1:53 felt a little weak and tired

2nd-1:56 felt a little stronger, but time is going up

3rd,4th-2:00 just couldn't give it a good push, but it was the 1st set of hills in 1 1/2 months.  I wasn't really focused as I thought about if I should run this weekend.  For some reason I am just having this battle in my mind back and forth.  After talking to my wife I don't think I will.  She has to work Friday night and I need to be home to watch the kids Saturday morning so she can get a few hours of rest before working Saturday night.

Finished the run going across Foremaster Ridge and back up to the mall and to PVHS at around 7:00 minute pace.  Probably could have hit 1 or 2 more hills at the same pace as the last couple, but the goal was quality not quantity.  Next time I'll get a little stronger on them.
 

Comments
From BILL on Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 11:43:39

Dave,

good job on the hill. your a great Husband!

From Dustin Ence on Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 12:52:36

Good work on the hills, I need to get back to doing some. Only 5 more basketball games left, then things should slow down for me.

From Dave Holt on Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 13:36:06

Slowing down for you and Clyde - cranking up for me... Ahhhh

Total Distance
12.00

Afternoon - 9 on GreenSpring/Powerline/Middleton Trail.  Felt really good, especially after hitting the main trail and on down the Middleton Trail.  Felt fast so I picked it up a little and hit 6:15 with not much effort and then backed it down and still hit 6:40's for a couple miles.  What a beautiful day.  Weather was perfect.

Weights - regular routine

PM - 3 on the treadmill at 1% and 7:30.  Just took it easy and used it as some recovery time.

W-150.5

RHR-45

Comments
From Bill on Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 13:01:56

you have a great weekend. I am ready to rock.

From steve ashbaker on Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 00:01:34

Hi Dave, I have not decided on what marathons to run yet. I want to make sure I can run a really good half before I put the hammer down again. I was not developed aerobically enough last year. So throw in some nasty mishaps to boot and you end up crashing worse than a 747! I plan to get hopefully as high as a 120 mpw. I know that sounds crazy to some guys but consider that Bill Rodgers did not break 2:30 for the marathon until he did well over a 100mpw consistently for about a year. I read this in a short bio of his. However I would be careful about doing high mileage in the summer with races and especially that Southern Utah heat you guys are famous for. I would say go for it but build up to it starting now during your base period. Or you could run 60-70 mpw with one or two hard sessions of long intervals with two easy days a week. Then... Do a 4-6 week build up with high mileage but with mostly marathon paced work during your long and medium long run. This is my belief take it for what it's worth. Where was your 1:14:42 half marathon? Nice hearing from you!

Total Distance
10.70

afternoon - Junction into Coral Canyon extended on the furthest road (don't know name).  Had a Tinman Tempo in mind (as best as I can tell what it is from my web research - For me the 45-60 second slower than 5K pace for extended an extended time, puts me just over marathon pace at about 6:05).  So anyway tried it... After 2.5 up to the top of ridge jumped into it.  Easily hit 1st mile with the downhill help at 5:50, but then I started to struggle.  Next half was setting me up to be about 20 seconds slower than pace and I felt it was going to get worse, so I just decided to back off and run how I felt.  Entering Coral Canyon, I realized that how I felt was a bit quicker and the watch confirmed that, so I did the next 1 1/2 back at TT pace and it felt good.  It even carried into the uphill section (of course, time didn't hold, but feeling did).  Then pushed it down other side of ridge as I thought about how I struggle at the end of races and need to be stronger and what better way to be stronger then pushing harder at the end.  So I used the downhill to turn in a 5:30 ish mile and cruised it on home.  

W-149.5

RHR-46 

Total Distance
11.15

afternoon - club run later in the day.  Met at the St. George Running Center and went up to Chuckwalla and down the trail (a crazy downhill run, but fun) and then extended it up to the Snow Canyon guard station down to Ivins and back along Parkway to store.  Clyde ran very strong and led us throughout.  I felt fatigued, especially in my quads (from weights?).  But when I finally started to feel a little stronger we pushed a few good miles.  Last four or five miles were all below 6:30 and some down toward 6:00.  Felt good to get out and the weather was absolutely perfect.

Got some new shoe from Steve (Asics Cumulus, to hit the treadmill with) and some recovery drink to hopefully help me not feel so sluggish toward the end of the week.  Tried it after the run, doesn't taste that great (but not unbearable) we'll see the results.

W-149

RHR-45 

Sunday:

W-153

RHR-45 

This week:

Met goals for mileage and for repeats this week.  Hills need a little improvement, but did hit the weight room Mon and Thurs.  Felt pretty good about the week. 

Goals for next week: 

Keep feeling healthy as I take the miles up to 65.  Get a good set of 800's in on Monday and get stronger then last week on my hills.  Keep enjoying running as it is a beautiful time of year and things are still not too crazy with track ... yet.

Total Distance
8.00

AM - 4x800's on the treadmill. Warmed up at 8:34 for 1/2 mile then took it to 7:30 for the next 1 1/2. Then decided to give it a try. 800's at 2:30 with 1% incline.

1st - felt a little hard, but got the legs turning over and moving.

2nd- probably the best of the 4 - felt stronger

3rd - still felt pretty good (for a moment even thought of maybe going 5)

4th - the thought quickly left. It was keep up or get thrown off. But I made it through.

recovery between was 2:30 at 8:34 pace. Then ran 2 1/2 cool down at 6:58. Left quad did act up a little (soreness). I don't think I could hit this full workout on the track yet (maybe a couple at 2:30 and the others at around 2:35 ish). But the treadmill is teaching me quicker turnover and that I have to stay focused throughout the whole repeat. (used recovery drink)

afternoon -weights (regular routine)

W-152

RHR-43

(Cumulus)

Comments
From Bill on Mon, Jan 29, 2007 at 10:13:22

good job running this morning. I need to do the same.

From Ryan Woods on Mon, Jan 29, 2007 at 14:03:25

thanks! it looks like you're really taking it to the treadmill. keep up the good effort!

From evan on Mon, Jan 29, 2007 at 14:47:38

What are you doing on the treadmill? Too warm in St. George to run outside? It was a balmy 15-degrees in SLC for the SLCTC 5K. I think it got over freezing for a little while this weekend.

Total Distance
12.00

AM- 4 on treadmill. warmup 1/2 at 8:34 then took it to 7:30 for a little and then 6:58. Felt good and relaxed. I checked my heart rate to see if I was working hard enough (152 bpm so I was at 80% - maybe actually a little high, but I didn't feel like I was working hard at all), but I decided to not worry about it and just remember that a recovery run is just that - recovery. (Cumulus)

afternoon - 8 on Washington Parkway Loop from PVHS.  No watch so no time, but felt very good and moved it along pretty well.  Was able to just enjoy a fast run and relax.

W-150.5

RHR-41

Comments
From Bill on Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 10:41:35

How do you feel after doing a 12 mile day?

From BILL on Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 12:12:42

HEY Dave,

I had it in last friday. So i am set for the Dam to Dam. Did your hear the spectrum 10 k is full?

Total Distance
8.60

afternoon- Sunrise hills x 5.  Warmup to the hill (1.8 ish) then right into the hills.

1-1:58 a little disappointed that I started out slow again (like last week) felt like I was challenging the hill more than the time showed.

2-1:55 decided I needed to get into it and make this a good workout

3-1:59 bumbed that 2nd time was only 1:55 when I felt like I was pushing so hard.  Really had nothing in my legs on this one

4-2:00 worked the arms hard and made a conscious effort to dig in the second half, but nothing is there. 

5-1:58 try to finish under 2.  Did it, workout is over.

Cooldown back across Foremaster, up Mall Drive and back to PVHS.  During my cooldown I had time to reflect on my struggles on hills lately.  Since starting back up, the last two weeks have had much slower times then back in Nov. and Dec. (1:50-1:55) and it is frustrating.  So trying to hit a reason I looked at the bit of a head wind as a small factor, but much bigger was leg fatigue.  I imagine this is from weights and much quicker 1 and 1/2 repeats.  So trying to weigh the pro's and con's, I decided that the repeats HAVE to stay and quick, the weights are needed to give me some leg and overall body strength, and I will just deal with the slower hills for a few more weeks and see if I can work on bringing it down little by little.  Afterall, this week was quicker than last with one more hill.

W-149.5

RHR-45 

Total Distance
14.55

AM- 9.55 Wendy's loop reverse. Felt good to get out this morning. Planned on hitting treadmill for shorter run this morning, but wife wasn't up, so I decided to hit the roads and go longer this morning and shorter this afternoon. Plantar hurt a little this morning, so I will get back into the Strassburg Sock for a few days (hasn't really given me a problem for most of the month - but just a nagging injury that is hard to kick). Run went well - especially considering it was a morning run which are usually a little slower for me. Overall ave. was 6:55 and that included trying to hit extra hills to prepare for the rollers of Boston (our hills in So Utah are much bigger than I would imagine anything in Boston will be, so I think I should be okay, but I went up the Wendy's Hill instead of hanging a right into Middleton like the loop would normally take me, just for a little extra practice - I liked it). Anyway ... good run. I felt pretty strong and recovered from yesterday's hills. (Cumulus)

afternoon- 5 Washington Storage run. Ran with some of my team on the way out. Didn't have my watch, but we were taking it pretty easy, but having a lot of fun. Then on the way back I picked it up a bit - probably 6:45 ish pace. Felt pretty good and smooth. (Cumulus)

Weights (regular routine)

W-151.5 (I don't remember the last time my weight went up during the week. And it wasn't from eating crap either. I felt stronger today and I wonder if there is some corollation? Maybe extra stuff in recovery drink is allowing body to not steal so much my reserves?)

RHR-43

Comments
From ArmyRunner on Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 10:52:09

As far as Boston is concerned you are correct the hills are not very big or long compared to what we have in Utah. However, I think it is more important to train as much as possible on long steady downhill courses more than the uphill training. Everyone talks about Heartbreak Hill. Heartbreak Hill in and of itself is not that big of a deal. I think it is more a combination of when it comes and at that point the amount of steady downhill pounding the legs have put up with. If the legs are trained to handle the steady downhill then they will be fresher come Heartbreak Hill and it will not play much of a factor. If I remember right it seemed like the first 16 miles was mostly downhill and then from 16-21 you do several climbs culminating in Heartbreak Hill and then it is a downhill ride to the finish. Just hope it is not 90'F and you can run a pretty fast time. Just my 02 cents.

From BILL on Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 14:25:28

Hi Dave,

Steve has some at the store. I think they have some at the rec ccenter also if they have not ran out. I have one here at the office.

From Dustin Ence on Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 14:57:37

Yeah Dave, I think Steve has some of the forms at his store. The cost is $25 if you want me to drop your registration and money off at Classic sometime on my way home from work, I could do that for you, or if you can't get a form from Steve I could pick one up for you. Just let me know how I can help

From BILL on Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 15:23:11

I could fax you one if you want

Total Distance
22.75

afternoon- Clyde took me on a beastly run today; and he wasn't even there.  Took his Winchester Hills trail.  At first planned on 12 mile loop Green Springs/Powerline/Water Tank run, but when I got up to the water tank, I started thinking I should get my long run in today since the rest of the guys would probably want to go 10-12 ish on Saturday.  So, ill-prepared as I was, I kept going up the Turkey Farm road for a while until I hit the trail over to Winchester.  A very cool area (I have never been back there before), but a hard trail - rocks and hills.  After getting back onto the highway to Enterprise (SG Marathon course) I decided to push the pace a bit.  At brought miles 11-17 down to just below 6:00 ave.  I was pushing it and had to concentrate on going fast because I was pretty tired.  Stopped at the St. George Running Center and chatted with Steve and Dustin for a minute and then ran back to PVHS.  Went down diagonal and then dropped onto Blvd. because I didn't want to run up the hill to Skyline.  The Blvd. reminded me why I didn't like running in SLC - traffic and people.  Anyway, jogged those 5.75 in to school and was pretty beat by the end of it. (NB)

W-150

RHR-42

 

Total Distance
13.00

morning - club run from Dixie Center out into Utah/Arizona desert.  Didn't have a lot in me.  But felt a little better than I thought I might.  Until the end.  Good thing run was through the desert, gave us a chance to go a little slower.  But we did ave. about 6:30 for the last 3 or so miles once we hit the road and were running back. (NB)

W-147 (no suprise it was way down after yesterday's run)

RHR-41

 

Sunday:

W-150

RHR-43

Did well on my goals this week.  Hit a few more miles then planned, but kept it under control.  Good repeats on Monday and hills were okay.  Kept consistent in the weight room.

Goals for coming week: Bring miles around 75.  Have some good mile repeats on Monday and quality hills on Weds.  Get a good set of weights in on Monday (but take Thurs. off of weights to give a little recovery for the race Sat.).  Put in a fast time at the 5 miler on Sat (I am not tapering for it - Bigger Fish to Fry! - but still run well) 

Total Distance
8.00

AM - 3xmile, 1x800 repeats on treadmill - worked into 2 mile warmup at 7:30 and 1%. Then started the miles by taking the incline to 0 (not quite ready physically or mentally for incline on these yet) and pace to 5:00

1- felt better then two weeks ago (confident and smooth)

2- got a little tired early

3- didn't know if I could make it

1 (800) - decided I needed to push further then two weeks ago, but wasn't ready for another full mile, so went 1/2. Felt a little stronger then #3 - probably knowing it would be over sooner.

Recovery between was 1/2 mile at 8:49 pace. 1 mile cool. (Cumulus)

afternoon- weights (regular routine)

W-152 (starving this morning)

RHR-44

Comments
From Bill on Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 15:52:06

I know Dave, You guys are awesome. I get real lazy sometimes. I ate nothing but crap all weekend. Sunday was a bust.

Total Distance
14.00

AM - 5 on treadmill - first two miles at 6:58 felt good and pretty easy, so I increased speed up to 6:44 and kept the incline at 1% for the next three miles. A good morning easy run. (Cumulus)

afternoon - GreenSprings/Pwerline/Middleton Trail 9. Was a bit tired and sore at first. More sore than this morning. But when I got into it I really enjoyed the run and debated to extend to the watertank for a 10.5, but decided to stay within myself and just do the 9. The treadmill makes me appreciate the outdoors so much more. Ave. pace at 7:08 (NB)

W-152.5

RHR-43

Comments
From steve hooper on Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 16:30:08

Do you normally run at a 1% incline on the treadmill? I've noticed I feel much more comfortable on the machine with at least a 1% - 2% incline. I think it has something to do with the way my foot plants on the track. At 0% incline my foot catches the track weird.

From ruthjeffallyamanda on Wed, Feb 07, 2007 at 21:33:43

hey coach.

you are so ultra-cool. check us out. yo. meet us at the track. it's going down. my homie g. skillet. dawg.

tight my man. bro. teech. ta for now.

your homies,

Jeff Frodsham, Ally Robison, Ruth Hilton

and Amanda Lusk

From ruthjeffallyamanda on Wed, Feb 07, 2007 at 21:40:37

oh yeah, we forgot to tell you that you spelled accomplishments without an "l" like accompishments under your picture. just so you know. we got your back.

toodles, the gang

Total Distance
14.15

afternoon - 9.15 out to Sunrise Hill to coach hills (only ran one myself, as part of my run - not a hill workout) then across Foremaster and River Trail. Then up 2450 to measure a run. Felt fine, but I was glad I wasn't doing hill repeats today. I think I should be okay for the race Saturday. I have been wondering, trying to keep my miles up, if it would kill me too much to run out to the race Saturday morning and then run it. I'll measure it online today and see how far out it is - I am guessing about 10 miles. (NB)

PM - jumped on the treadmill for 5 during the 2nd half of UNC/that other team. I was so into the game I didn't notice for the first 1.2 miles that I didn't increase my speed past my .25 warmup speed of 7:30, so then I took it up to 6:44 for the rest of the workout and finished the last 1/4 at 6:00. During the run I increased the incline from 1% (mile 1), to 2%, 3%, 2%, 1% for a little more of a gradual but sustained hill workout since I didn't hit hill repeats today. (Cumulus)

W-151.5

RHR-42

Total Distance
17.00

AM - 6 on treadmill at 6:58. Felt just fine. Didn't even notice the time fly by as I watched Lost on DVR. (Cumulus)

afternoon - 11 on GS/Power/WT trail.  I thought the trail was 10.5, but today it came out at 11.  I think because I turned back up into Middleton instead of just continuing on the Parkway.  I'll have to look back and see.  Took awhile to get into the run.  I was pretty slow hitting the trails and felt a little tired.  I'll back down on Friday to just 8 instead of 10 for a little more recovery (I still want to do well in the race).  Coming down the ridge I didn't feel too fast and didn't want to push it too hard.  But the ave came out okay for a trail run. 7:05. (NB)

W-151

RHR-41

Total Distance
7.50

afternoon - Washington Parkway and Loop combined.  Good run, took it pretty easy to let the legs rest a little for tomorrow's race.  I've decided I will run out to the race tomorrow and use it as sort of a training to run hard after putting in a few miles.

RHR-42

(W-? scale battery dead) 

Race: Dam to Dam (5 Miles) 00:27:58, Place overall: 2, Place in age division: 1
Total Distance
17.50

Isn't it interesting how results that look so similar on the surface and actually be so different?  Another 2nd (9 in a row now - not counting marathons). 

AM - warmup, ran from home over to Sand Hollow 11.5 miles.  Took it pretty easy and ave. 7:13 on the way.

Got to the race feeling pretty good.  The run over was nice and just the distance I wanted.  I knew that running over may cost me the overall win, but I didn't care, I wanted to see how I could race after having some miles under me.  Ran another mile while waiting near the starting line.

Race- Field looked about like usual.  Steve, Dustin, and Bill were there as well as Steve Olsen (a solid local runner), Jose Martinez and I suspected one or two others who could probably run pretty decent.  The course was different than I thought - it was on the dirt, gravel, sand blow road around Sand Hollow and had minor rises and drops but no total elevation loss or gain.

1- race started off with a few of us passing the starting trucks which was nice because then we got to breath their dust for a little while (thanks!)  But I started off in a good groove, but realized later it was too fast.  Another fellow (the eventual winner) was a few steps ahead, me, then Steve O. just a few steps behind me. 5:13

2- 5:29 Started to fall back a little.  Legs were tired, but MIND was even worse.

3- 5:43 Now I was running like a scared, tired high school kid.

4- 5:44 The leader was looking back and I should have jumped him, but I accepted that I was tired and it was okay to take 2nd because I had already put a few miles in today.

5-5:46 Trying to make sure I held off Steve O. for 2nd.  And didn't attack the leader at all.  He got me by about 30 seconds.  And I just gave up on it.

I was pretty upset about my effort today.  Not 2nd (I can handle taking 2nd, again, or even the time, which was much slower than it should have been), what I am mad is that despite being tired and running over, I ran like a wimp.  I didn't attack.  I let my mind win when I felt tired. 

Overall ave. was 5:35 - I need to get mentally stronger.  Hopefully more racing and tough workouts will get me there.

RHR- 45 - I could feel it pick up as I woke up during the reading and realized I was racing today.
 

Comments
From Bill on Mon, Feb 12, 2007 at 12:29:08

Dave, you would of won the race if you would of drove over. no Doubt. Getting second is still awesome. and the time wow! I think the course is pretty slow with the gravel roads and sand. I got to work on my mind games myself. and push my body through the fatigue.

From Steve Hooper on Mon, Feb 12, 2007 at 12:45:03

Once again good job at the race.

You mentioned you weren't as stong mentally as you would have liked. I wonder how much of that had to do with knowing you ran over to the race from your house?

From Dustin Ence on Mon, Feb 12, 2007 at 12:46:45

Good job on the race, and an impressive week of training. I'm getting excited for you guys to go to Boston. I was looking at the race site last night, then started looking at hotel and flight deals, but I don't think I'm in the shape to consider Boston at this point, probably should just save my money, but I'm still reminded of how much fun it was last year. I should say Boston was fun, the Marathon was not.

Total Distance
13.00

AM - Treadmill at 1% 6x1/2 miles. Felt a little stiff and tired on the 2 mile warmup (7:30). I probably should have run Saturday afternoon or something, but I had a lot of projects to do that took all day and after I was shot. anyway... Got into the 800's feeling a bit tired and I could tell the legs didn't really want to get going.

Was able to hit each one at 2:30 without flying off - but I was pretty spent by the last one.


I hope I can reap the benefits of forcing myself to run faster for these longer repeats because of the treadmill pays off. (Cumulus)

afternoon - 5 on 2450 loop then I took a detour onto a paved trail I've been wanting to look at. I didn't think it went to far and it didn't, but if Washington City ever expands it, the Millcreek Trail will be a great one to run on (except for the sign I saw that said "The mosquitos in this area are known West Nile Virus carriers", that did kind of put a damper on the area). anyway, the trail was about 1.5 miles long out and back. (NB)

weights (usual routine)

RHR-41

Goals for the week: Run with a little more pride this week. I don't have any races scheduled between now and Boston, so I will just keep on keeping on. Focused and Determined to do well. Bring in a little more tempo running at marathon pace over the next few weeks and hit a 20+ miler on Saturday. Hit week at right about 80 miles.

Total Distance
15.00

AM- 5 on treadmill at 1%. Warmup at 8:34 for 1/4 then 7:30 for another 1/4. Then took run to 6:58 for the next 3 1/2 and finished final mile at 6:44. I would like to bring my usual treadmill speed to that 6:44 level instead of 6:58 in the next few weeks. Felt a little tired and sore from yesterday's workouts. (Cumulus)

noon - with parent-teachers, I don't know when I'll run 10, but I will. Got it in. Started practice at end of school 10:50 and then went out on my own run. Middleton/Power/GS loop in reverse. First time I've tried it in this direction. Enjoyed it. Had a little different feel going this way. I was a little tired coming down Green Springs. Then I added a mile by going into Sandberg's Pond area. I think when I am not fatigued, this would maybe be a better workout; coming down the paved road. But thinking of it, I think I enjoyed the usual direction better. No watch/no time. (NB)

RHR-44

Comments
From Bill on Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 13:43:26

good work on the treadmill. Don't worry about theose wimpy mequitos. I like that trail my self.

From Superfly on Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 15:44:27

There is a new Landreth 3 out. You can veiw them @ road runner sports. I need a couple pair of them.

From steve ashbaker on Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 17:23:31

Good job on getting your mileage up and how is your body responding to those now? I know that for myself it was very tricky at first having to pay extreme amounts of attention to recovery and proper intensity for different workouts. But now it has gotten easier and some nights I have to hold back because Im having so much fun being out there.

From Dustin Ence on Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 10:42:52

Hey Dave

In response to your question about the Nimbus, the first few days I wasn't sure if I really liked them or not, but now after a few runs I think they will be a good trainer. For me it feels like a pretty heavy shoe, but I'm used to training in pretty light shoes, so it may be good to train in the heavier shoe on some of the days. If I was to do it over again, I think I would have just gone with the blue colored Nimbus Steve has in his store, rather than the orange and grey he ordered in for me.

Total Distance
10.75

noon- hit the GS/PowerL/WT loop before PT Conf. today. Didn't go back into Middleton, instead stayed on the Parkway and headed back. No watch again today. I knew I would make it back in time, but I didn't want to be looking at the time and stressing about cutting it too close and subsequently not enjoying the run. Nice day today, a little bit of a cool wind, but sunny. Legs felt a little sore in the quads. Don't plan on running again today, but who knows maybe a few later. (NB)

RHR-44 (has been up here in mid 40's for the last few days. Watch for any more signs of fatigue)

Comments
From Bob on Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 18:54:09

Dave

Getting a run in before PT conferences is inspirational to ALL teachers! Way to go!

Total Distance
22.75

This is the 3rd time writing this, each time it gets less and less. (I don't know why it is not recording the entry?)

noon - Green Valley Loop. Home to Dogpound to Riverside (miles 1-4; felt good, held back a little as to not push to hard, ave. 6:50). Up River Road across 7th South and around the Black Hill (miles 5-9; kept the ave. at 7:00). Now the uphill section - up Indian Hills to Valley View up to Bluff, and up the Parkway (miles 10-17.5; still strong up Indian Hills 7:00, slowed to 7:20 up Valley View and Bluff, killer hill up Parkway 8:13, then another 1.5 at 7:20). Then tried to bring it home at a decent marathon pace ( first 2 at 6:04, pretty close, feeling good; next 2 at 6:20, pace kept slowing but then I would notice and bring it down again; big incline at firehouse 6:48; cruised the last two in at 6:30). Overall ave. 6:54.

Felt very positive about this workout. Best long run I have had in a long time. Water at 5,9...; energy drink (name? got from Steve) at 11,15...; gu at 17. Felt this gave me a little zing toward the end. (NB)

RHR-41

Comments
From Dustin Ence on Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 13:30:32

Nice work on the long run. I ran up Valley View and Indian Hills the other day when it was windy and cold and I struggled some.

From Sasha Pachev on Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 13:41:50

Is this the first time this has happened to you? What browser are you using?

From Dave Holt on Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 13:53:17

Sasha, yup 1st time. I'm using Mozilla. What it did was acted like it had timed out or something, so when I went to post, it made me log back in. So on the 3rd time I got smart and copy, so I could just paste it in. But then it worked just fine.

Total Distance
10.00

afternoon - Junction run. Went out as a recovery run. No watch/no time. Just tried to enjoy it. The weather was great, and the run went well. I wasn't too tired and had a pretty decent run. (Cumulus)

RHR-42

Total Distance
11.60

morning - club run from DC out on the Bloomington Hills/Desert Loop. Ran it with Clyde, except the last mile when he decided to push it to the limit. Ran well despite feeling pretty tired at first. Slowly got into the groove and had a pretty good run with a decent ave pace. (NB)

didn't take RHR Sat or Sun morning

Hit goals good this week. Had good repeats. Hit a lot of good miles. Had a very good long run.

Goals for next week: See what I can really do for mile repeats on the track. Get another week of good mileage before track starts. Have a strong 18 miler.

Total Distance
16.50

morning - 4x1600's on the track. A pretty disappointing workout. I ran out to the school - 3 miles - to warmup. And thought that I could probably get about 5:10, since I was getting 5:00's on the treadmill. Boy was I wrong. 1st - 5:20. Wasn't thinking right when I was calculating my needed splits and ran too slow on the first lap by 5 seconds. So I thought I wasn't too far off, considering 1st is usually a little harder to get into. 2nd - 5:24. Now I am bugged because I am working much harder and went slower. 3rd - usually the hardest, and it was. 5:30. I was really bothered by how I couldn't hit the times I wanted. 4th - 5:30 again. At least I hit 4, but I was tired and a bit angry with myself. Recovered 1/2 mile (5:00) between and jogged 3 home for total of 12.5 for workout. Overall I was upset about my lack of speed. I really thought I would be stronger. That is one thing about the treadmill - even though I know it is not MY true speed, at least I can't give up; I've got to keep pushing even when I am tired. On the track, when I feel tired I naturally slow up; even just 1 sec. per 200 adds up quick on a 1600. (Cumulus)

PM - 4 on treadmill at 7:30 and 1% for recovery. (Cumulus)

RHR-47

Total Distance
13.50

AM - 4.5 on treadmill at 7:30 and 1%. Was way tired and legs were in shuffle step mode. (Cumulus)

afternoon - 9 GS/PowerL/Middleton Trail.  Trail was nice and compact from recent rains.  Ran miles 1 and 2 with an athlete as well as the last two with another athlete from my team.  Middle section was pretty good.  ave. 7:10.  Good recovery run.

RHR-49

Comments
From BILL on Tue, Feb 20, 2007 at 11:29:12

your loving the treadmill.

From Dave Holt on Tue, Feb 20, 2007 at 11:55:08

I don't know if I love it - but it does let me run when normally time/family wouldn't allow.

Total Distance
14.00

AM - 6 on treadmill at 7:30 1% 1st mile, then increased pace to 6:58 and 2%, 3% for two miles, 2%, 1%. Good long sustained hill workout. (Cumulus)

afternoon - 8 on the River run. Felt a bit tired and worn out. The time was actually pretty decent, but not the best on this run 6:54. I just tried to keep it backed off a little to have some legs for tomorrow's 18. I would like to run a good 2nd half of that run to continue improving my marathon weaknesses.

(scale still no batteries, and keep forgetting to take pulse)

Comments
From Bill on Wed, Feb 21, 2007 at 12:43:48

Did you hear that Clyde had a accident with his GPS? He found it on the road dead. A viewing will be scheduled in the near future!

From Superfly on Wed, Feb 21, 2007 at 13:59:58

Yeah and Rev.Bill will be sharing a few kind words and since he is such a nice guy he'll be presenting me with a brand new one to take the pain away.

From Dave Holt on Wed, Feb 21, 2007 at 14:10:09

Now that's the kind of thing you could expect from the good Rev. and that's why we love him!

From Bill on Wed, Feb 21, 2007 at 16:42:51

Send money in lue of flowers!

From Chad on Thu, Feb 22, 2007 at 11:41:23

Guys--It's ok, I'm sure Clyde's watch is in a better place now. With the way Clyde runs, I'm sure the watch was more than happy to end its life of suffering.

From Dave Holt on Thu, Feb 22, 2007 at 13:35:36

It's kind of like a quote I heard in a video back when i fought fires, "I know I'm going to heaven, because I already spent my time in hell."

Not saying you are the devil Clyde!

From steve ashbaker on Thu, Feb 22, 2007 at 13:35:42

Thanks, Im gonna need it tomorrow for sure. I have some mild shin splint issues that is slowly resolving itself so I had to cut back on everything. Not to mention the field Im running against is pretty good especially as the distance gets longer. Looks like your really ramping up the base training, looks really good. I hope I get to run with you at St George this year. Good luck! Steve.

From steve ashbaker on Thu, Feb 22, 2007 at 13:36:37

Not tomorrow on race day that is...

From Superfly on Thu, Feb 22, 2007 at 13:40:29

You guys are all too funny!

Total Distance
18.40

afternoon - Quail Creek run. I do this run in three segments. First and Second 5 miles, both just over 35 minutes each. Then after a hard .75 mile climb, I start the third which is marathon pace for the rest of the run. When I finished the climb at 10.75 I noticed the wind was blowing quite a bit up above Quail in the Industrial Park - and I knew my chances for marathon pace were not there, but I could still push myself and run hard. Shortly, the wind got worse; then worse; and just when I thought that it couldn't get any worse - It Got Worse. It was right up there with the top one or two windy runs I can ever remember. I struggled to keep my pace anywhere near 7:00. the wind basically stood me up and pushed me backward in some spots. Needless to say, I didn't hit my marathon pace for the last section, but the effort was maybe even greater. By the time I dropped back into Washington, the winds were just gusty. It didn't matter, however. I was so tired from the effort I was just happy to be able to keep shuffling toward home.

Legs still a bit tired, but feet felt better in new pair of Landreth II's.

Since the NB 755's are now retired here is my review of them: Don't be deceived by the initial cushiony feel of this neutral shoe. Within a week of wearing them, the forefoot had lost most of its softness and my feet hurt every run in them since. The shoe is heavy and from the beginning felt very clunky on my foot (As opposed to the Asics Landreth and Cumulus that seem to glide across the road). For the first time ever, I heard my own footsteps as I literally pounded the pavement. The one thing I liked was the lack of wear on the rubber. I do wish Asics would hold up as well on the sole as this shoe did. Miles on the New Balance 755's - 469.0

Comments
From Bill on Fri, Feb 23, 2007 at 13:07:40

Hey Dave, I think there is a song "Running against the wind!" Thanks for the shoe review. I Need a new pair soon. Landreths sound like the way to go. Your smokin on the miles. Going for 100?

From Dave Holt on Fri, Feb 23, 2007 at 13:26:01

No - I'll back it down Friday and Saturday with 10-12's each day.

From Superfly on Fri, Feb 23, 2007 at 15:43:10

Good run Dave. Your right about the recovery weeks. The seem to really boost the energy. I'll back down to 80 next week. I just had some extra time and decided it would be a good week to hit 100 because I told myself I would before Boston. Don't ask me why? I'm pretty beat and am just trying to get through the week.

From Bill on Fri, Feb 23, 2007 at 16:07:58

congrats. now you can buy me lunch teachers a $2,500 raise and a $1,000 bonus.

Total Distance
10.00

afternoon - up Millcreek Trail to end of powerlines.  A good run .  Didn't wear watch because I thought it might rain - I have had too many watches ruined by the rain.  But it didn't.  Instead it snowed on me a bit when I crossed into the desert reserve.  Legs really loosed up on the way back and pace was pretty good. (Landreth)

RHR-47 

Total Distance
14.00

morning - club run around into Green Valley up onto Parkway and back by way of Main. I struggled much of the run. I was so tired getting up (had stayed up much later than usual watching the state basketball semis (go PV, sorry Judge guys). So it took a long time for me to get into it. Clyde made a strong surge on the Parkway and Steve went with him, so I decided I needed to as well. From there I just tried to hang on as they picked it up to marathon pace when we hit the trail, diagonal, and main. Pace was right on for those 3 miles (5:54, 5:51, 5:48). Then I finally loosened up and pushed up in front to take my turn leading and pushed the last mile in at 5:41. Then 1/2 cool down. Ave. pace 6:48. (Landreth)

PV went on to win again Saturday night - State Champs! Maybe some of that enthusiasm will carry over into track (in my dreams!)

Did well with the week goals. Good mileage. Made up for windy finish on Thursday with a good push at the end of Sat. Mile repeats weren't that great, but I'll bounce back.

Goals for next week: Give myself a little break with the start of track and nearing the end of the quarter. Back mileage back down to 65ish. No two-a-days this week. But have 7 strong 1/2's Monday and get a long run in on Saturday or maybe Friday.


Comments
From steve hooper on Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 14:15:49

Hey Dave, good job on a great week and a fantastic run on Sat!

I'm trying to locate your email address to send email over the flier for the "track team special". If you could shoot me an email to "steve at stgeorgerunningcenter.com" it would be great.

Thanks, Steve

Total Distance
7.50

PM - 7x1/2 miles on treadmill at 1% and 2:30. Started out with 1 mile warmup at 7:30 and a very negative attitude. I wasn't able to get up in the morning. And practice started today, so now the afternoons are shot that way. But I knew I had to get it in and hoped my attitude would change once I got going. It didn't... at first. Got into 800's at 5:00 minute pace and felt pretty good about them. Equal time recovery jog in between at 8:49 pace, just long enough to get a few good breathes in and then at it again. Noticed that I really need to stay on top of my feet to make the treadmill as real as possible. Meaning: if I sit back, I heel strike and the treadmill does the work; if I stay up on my toes and keep my body centered correctly, I can hit my foot quickly and pull my foot through which makes each step as realistic as possible on the treadmill. Cool-down at 7:30 for 1 mile. (Cumulus)

RHR - 47 (was mostly asleep so I might have been off)

Total Distance
8.00

AM - 5 on treadmill at 1%. Warmed up for a mile at 7:30 and then took it to 6:58 for the next 4. Nothing too eventful other then I was able to get up this morning. Track season is hard. But I've GOT to have the resolve to get up in the morning and do my miles and then support it with whatever I can in the afternoons. (Cumulus)

afternoon - 3 down to Middle School and back with big loop around school (Landreth)

weights -regular routine


Comments
From Dustin Ence on Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 10:05:50

Good Job on the 800s, I feel for you right now, things get busy when you are coaching. I'm not sure if I would like 7th grade or not, I'm also going to apply for that social studies/history job out at Desert Hills. I think there would be a lot of good possibilities out there, (coaching, driver's eduction) If I got a job at there, I would definately look at trying to move over here to St. George

From Bill on Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 11:19:28

morning are tough. If it starts warming up it will be a little easyer.

Total Distance
8.00

AM - 8 on treadmill - long hill workout. 1 mile at 1% and 7:30 warmup. Then sped up to 6:58: 1%, 2%, 3% (two miles) 2%, 1% (2 miles). I would like to go back to sleep now, but that's not happening. (Cumulus)

Comments
From BILL on Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 10:33:42

Hey your a young man. you do not need sleep. when do two a days start for track? or is it cross counrty season?

From Dave Holt on Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 13:27:55

next week ... blah... then I have to get up even earlier.

Total Distance
8.00

Stopped in at the St. George Running Center and got some new shoes from Steve - Brooks Glycerin - gave them a try this morning.

AM - 8 on treadmill - 7:30 warmup (felt hard for some reason and then I thought to check the incline and it was a 3% - must of hit that on accident) then took it to 6:58 at 1% for the next 7 as I watched Lost and Sportscenter. The new shoes felt good. I was intrigued by the way the show rolled off the forefoot. It seemed like if you were getting up on top of your feet it would roll very well, but if you were sitting back it may roll strangely and hold you back. But on the run this morning I didn't notice anything but goodness. (Glycerin)

Comments
From Superfly on Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 10:05:14

The Glycerin's are a pretty good shoe this year. I got some about 2 months ago from Steve and so far so good. Hopefully all the hype about the MoGo and it's long life is true.

From Dave Holt on Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 12:45:19

That is what I really want - a good 450 mile shoe.

Total Distance
23.35

afternoon - Winchester Run. Going up Green Springs I felt very tired and weak in my quads and thought I might be in trouble. Times continued to add up as I went up desert and onto the Turkey Farm Road - 11 miles all up hill adds up. By the Turkey Farm I was hitting 8:00 + miles. Dropping into Winchester I had to dodge around a flash flooded out dirt road. Hit the SR and dropped into town trying to hit about 6:20's. I really wanted the strong push when I was going over the Parkway and into Middleton. Times down the SR were actually closer and some below 6:00. Then after climbing Parkway I hit a couple at 6:20, but legs were just spent. Finished up last couple just above 7:00 which was the ave. 7:15. I felt very beat up and tired. The run got the best of me. Water at 5,9,...., Replenish at 7,11...., Gu at 15 (felt pretty crappy in the stomach after - watch to see if it does it again). (Glycerin)

Total Distance
11.50

morning - club run with Steve and Luke out into the fields. Saw Steve's lot and had a good chat with him as we went along. Never really hit a good flow, but my knees were hurting much of the run anyway so it was good to finally loosen up. (Landreth)

week went pretty well. Hopefully a week of lower miles helps me keep healthy.

Next weeks goals: Bounce back into some bigger miles 80+. Have a good mile workout on Monday. Quail run on Friday morning: make it a good run with a strong tempo at the end (weather permitting).

Total Distance
15.00

AM - 5x mile on Treadmill at 5:00 with 1/2 mile recovery jog. Started with 2 mile warmup at 7:30 and 1%. Then took off incline and started miles. First felt hard - knew it was going to be a long workout. 2nd and 3rd felt about the same as the first. 4th convinced myself I could make it through and last one would take care of itself. 5th Happy that I wouldn't let me talk myself into doing just a 1/2. Because I made it through and it was my best one. 1 mile cool down at 7:30. (Cumulus)

foot injury update: Plantar is feeling quite a bit better. Had been feeling great until the NB started to break down and now I am getting back into the Strassburg for the last few nights and the new shoes are helping it feel better. Left pinky toe is feeling a lot better. Still gives a little zing when it gets bumped. Finally, the weird bruising pain under my right outside ankle bone is back the last few days (it seems to corrolate with the PF pains).

PM - 4.5 Washington Loop. Started a bit tired, but I was excited to get out and run outside.  Even just a few runs on the treadmill makes you really appreciate the goodness of real running.  Run went okay, but form was off (because of fatigue).  (Glycerin)

RHR-40

Comments
From ArmyRunner on Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 14:20:08

With a solid workout like that you are looking like you are in shape to demolish your old man PRs. I would guess you could run a sub 16:00 5K right now no problem.

From Bill on Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 16:26:27

WOW. your moving. get some ice on that asap. Did you run with the club Saturday?

From Dave Holt on Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 17:02:45

Thanks Ted - I really want to run the Spectrum 10K down here in a couple weeks. I think I could hit a solid 32, but I've got a big track invitational we are hosting that weekend so I guess it is out of the question.

Bill- Yeah, ran with Steve and Luke on saturday. It was okay.

Total Distance
14.00

AM - 10 on the Wendy's Loop. Not a good run this morning. Again good to get out, and I have been proud of myself for getting up and not allow the excuses that pop into my head to win. But I was fatigued and slow right from the start. No miles faster than 7:01 and the last few were about what I would call pathetic (7:45 +). But again this morning I was struggling with form. Legs were clompy and things just weren't smooth. Still the hangover from yesterday's repeats. I'll try to shake it out a little more with a four miler this afternoon. (Glycerin)

afternoon - 4 Dogpound from PVHS w/team. A perfect time to run with my "advanced" runners. Tried to smooth out the run a little with a recovery pace. Could have pushed it harder, but accomplished what I wanted to - run with the team and get in a few recovery miles. (Landreth)

RHR-44

Comments
From steve ashbaker on Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 10:09:59

Hey! I'm not a poster guy, but I have that one! It always reminds me what it really takes to succeed in both running and life. Because non one else is gonna give it to you.

From Bill on Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 11:23:33

after a speed work out like yesterday it does take a few days to recover. How are te Glycerin shoes?

From Dave Holt on Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 12:49:16

Yeah Steve I really like the meaning behind that poster.

Bill - I haven't quite made up my mind on the Glycerin yet. So far I have only ran long or recovery in them - only runs that I haven't really felt good during. So I see...

Total Distance
14.00

AM - I was actually up, but I had to have a little more sleep. So I revised my schedule a little to go 6 and 8 instead of 10 and 4, so... 6 on Treadmill with no incline. Started out at 7:30 for a mile warmup and quickly decided that it is taking longer than planned to bounce back from my mile repeats (just not much there in the legs). So I decided on no inline today. Took miles 2 and 3 to 6:58, then miles 4 and 5 to 6:44, finally back to 6:58 for mile 6. I started to feel a little better with the quicker pace on mile 4 and 5. (Cumulus)

afternoon - 8 on River Run. 1.75 mile warm up at 6:50 pace. Then I was going to attempt a marathon + pace run for the next 4. 1-5:50 felt good, helped with a bit of a decline. 2-6:04 still a decline, thought I was actually moving harder than mile 1, but I guess not. Kind of disappointed. 3-6:03 leveled out along river, just a little incline. Felt good, but thought about slowing down pace after this one. 4-6:11 decided why should I let up and kept pushing like I had planned, a little uphill. 5-6:10 originally I didn't know if I would get this one or not and it was a good mental barrier for me to overcome and convince myself I could do it. uphill. Then 1 1/4 mile finish at 7:00 uphill. Although the times weren't quite what I wanted, I was pleased with the workout. At the start I felt a bit worn down (the times show that as I should have been 5:40 - 5:55 through the workout). But I am getting stronger mentally and not giving in to ending workouts early when I am tired. You're always tired when you're running. That's what it does. (Glycerin)

RHR - 41

Comments
From steve ashbaker on Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 21:22:29

Well, you know If I keep tapering like this I'll taper away into oblivion and never be heard from again.

Total Distance
12.00

AM - what a night, sick and injured kids, howling dogs ... no sleep. Thought about sleeping in and figured I would still hit my miles where I want to this week. But I remember something someone said on the blog about become a top level runner requires you to do the things that are tough. So I got up and hit the treadmill. 6 miles at 7:30 with 1%. Wasn't flying by any means today. But I got up. (cumulus).

afternoon - 6 GreenSprings (Glycerin)

RHR-41

Total Distance
18.50

AM - 18.5 Quail Creek Loop.  Got up very early and went out on the long run for the week.  Will write more when I have my watch in front of me and I have more time.  Run went pretty well, but it took awhile to get into it.  (Glycerin)

Total Distance
10.00

AM - 10 Wendy's with 11th extension at end.  Up early again (but not as early as yesterday) to do the workout before the track meet.  Ran well - all miles under 7, with an average of 6:34 and negative splits.  Good moderate workout.  (Glycerin)

A good solid week of training.  A lot of good things came out of it.

Goals for next week:  Let the miles add up.  Enjoy not having to wake up too early and try and avoid the treadmill at all costs.  I think it is adding to my Plantar pain - coming back stronger the last week.  Mileage 85 or a little more.

Total Distance
12.00

morning - 12 on Green Springs/PowerL/WaterT extended. Just took it easy. Left calf was very tight and I had to stop and stretch it a bit.  (landreth)

Comments
From Bill on Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 08:00:40

Dave,

Way to go getting up. how did your track meet go?

Total Distance
12.50

morning - 9x800's.  Ran 3 miles to the track then got into 8's on the track.  Hoped I would see a little better performance on the 8's on the track then the miles on the track the other week.  1-2:32, started off well and am thinking it should go well; 2-2:35 let it slip a little but realized what splits I needed to hit (just a little quicker 1st and 2nd 200's; 3- 2:32, brought it back down about where I want to be (have been doing 2:30 on treadmill); 4-2:33, felt pretty strong until this one, now I realize its the second half of the workout that is really the workout; 5-2:31, pushing hard to make sure I am not falling off; 6-2:31, again hitting well; 7-2:35, lost my concentration on the 2nd 200 (about 42) and subsequently lost my time; 8-2:37, a pretty pathetic one, I was straining and let it get the best of me; 9-2:31 as a punishment for the two poor repeats at the end, I made myself earn the right to leave the track by doing another one, Started strong and just held on, then got a good push on the last 100 to turn in a good time.  Equal recovery jog between reps. (400 meters).  Then 3 miles home after practice.  (Cumulus)

Comments
From Bill on Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 09:57:13

I think we are still going to meet at 4:00

From Superfly on Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 13:00:51

Good 800 workout. We need to start running that workout together once a week.

From Ally on Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 18:37:31

I sold my Samurai for COLLEGE gosh dang it all. But Sasha left me a comment saying the kenyans get fast by running home all the time so WATCH OUT im gonna be faster than the kenyans.

Total Distance
13.00

morning - 13 on River Run from home.  Tried to keep it all under 7.  Wasn't always successful, but the idea helped me keep running harder than I would have otherwise.  Had to do 11th Ward extension plus a bit more in my neighborhood to make the full 13.  Next time I will do extension at first and last.  I think I will use this as a base timing run during the summer (the middle 6 miles or something like that).  (Glycerin)

Comments
From BILL on Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 11:39:08

Good run after those 800's yesterday. hope you enjoying spring Break.

From steve ashbaker on Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 14:22:09

Yeah, it was a good time for the course but I had some aches and pains from the training. I have never been this consistent at this high of level ever. And so I run into some aches and pains occasionally that slow me down. But I get on top of them right away with treatment like Ice 3-4x a day etc. Im starting to see some improvement now after a couple of months of higher mileage and then coming down for 4 weeks but incresing the intensity to become more marathon specific. Running at 6/min pace has helped my economy greatly and running at that pace now seems to take less effort. Training heart rate has also improved. But... that faster paced stuff does make the legs a little heavy at times. My speed endurance over long distance is slowly starting to improve.I think if you keep this up you will see some changes. I know I have. Im starting to feel more confident about the marathon now. Just remember to really change up the type of training emphasis every 8wks or so. Monotony in training is a killer of adaptation. The human body needs different types of stimulus every so often in order to improve. Just ask any bodybuilder. I would also run on trails or on the roads more because in my opinion and this is just my opinion, Traedmills are a strength killer. Sorry I laid all that out but its my day off so I kinda wrote away. Overall you look pretty good in training. Have you had any races since the half-marathon?

From steve ashbaker on Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 14:27:01

Sorry, I did not mean to turn it into a physiology lecture...

From Dustin Ence on Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 15:46:08

Good job on those 800s yesterday, sounds like the weather has been really nice there in St. George for Spring Break.

From Mik'L on Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 22:39:57

You may already know but I guess the boys are meeting at 4:00 for one more week...

Total Distance
17.60

morning - 8 on Millcreek Trail up to Powerline turn off. Took it real easy and relaxed, especially on the way up - nearly 32 minutes. 28 minutes on the way back. Ave. 7:27.  (Glycerin)

afternoon - 9.6 club run from store and Santa Clara Cemetery Loop.  Overall ave. was 6:49.  Just about where I wanted it to be, but a little quick at first.  Good running with Clyde again, he always pushes me. (Glycerin)


 

Comments
From ruthie... on Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 16:02:01

I have a blog!!! cool, huh?

Total Distance
24.10

AM - Green Valley run - changed course by going on River Trail instead of run and then when I went under the freeway in Washington I went on down to Telegraph and up to Cottonmill East and up to home.  I thought this would get me 25, but it didn't and I didn't have the legs to get it to 25.

I am a bit ashamed to write about this run because it was so bad.  But I guess we learn a lot from the poor runs too.  So here are the depressing statistics: miles 1-4 down to the river trail 7:04, 6:54,7:16,6:56 - not bad about where they should be; miles 5 and 6 on dirt connection to trail and washed out section of trail too dark to see footing so it slowed me down 7:24,7:23; Miles 7-14.25 across St. George and up Valley View 7:24,7:13,7:15,7:23,7:34,7:38,7:56,8:07, and 7:50 pace - pretty crappy on the flat and up Valley View, I wasn't into it mentally, physically, of with any heart - a very bad combination, stopped at the gas station at the top of VV for a little break and decided I would get back into with a better attitude;  Miles14.25-16.75 up Skyline 8:28,8:05, and 9:08 pace - things went from bad to worse;  Miles 16.75-24 6:57,6:46,7:13,7:16,7:51,7:32,8:28, and 9:04 pace - tried to hit the last section at marathon like I am supposed to, but it wasn't there.  Even when I was pushing the best I could do was where my whole run should have been. (Glycerin)

Don't be too harsh with your comments, I am in a very fragile state right now.  It is just frustrating when things won't work they way you want.  Oh well... I get up and try to do better tomorrow.

Water at 5,9,13... Ultima Replenisher at 7,11,15... Gu at about 17.


Comments
From steve ashbaker on Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 11:31:48

Dave, is it possible that you did not recover well since you ran that 800m session on tuesday? I was looking at your log and I noticed your workouts and comments on these runs. Part of the problem looks like you may not have had enough gas in the tank. Hydration and accumulated fatigue from the previous runs may have been a factor. I run very easy after track workouts like that.

From steve ashbaker on Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 11:45:32

Plus your on track for maybe a 90-100 mi wk? I noticed when I did that kind of mileage I was never really fresh anyway especially in the beginning. If my legs were heavy in a big way or my resting pulse was 8 beats over normal I would either cut the distance and intensity or I would just plain call it a day. Don't get discouraged. Maybe cut back for a while and regroup, then climb back up gradually again. Just a bad day for you. Good Luck!

From Maria on Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 12:06:29

I agree with Steve. This looks to be the third week in a row where you have increased mileage significantly. Most of the runs this week have been at least a tad harder than easy pace, and your last run before this one happened less than 24 hours ago, if you ran in the afternoon and then again in the morning. All this has caught up to you, and your body is asking for a break! I think you'll be fine if you scale back the mileage a bit next week, and run few recovery runs. Don't feel bad, you probably still got good training out of this run, even if the pace was slow, - your HR was probably at the right level. Your body doesn't know the pace, it only knows the effort and duration, so you did good!

From BILL on Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 13:24:56

DAVE,

WoW! I am imressed you ran that far. yesterday when we ran with the club it was pretty warm. I know it took alot out of me. You worked it harder then i did. Are you going to make it tomorrow?

From Superfly on Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 15:22:28

It's not like last nights workout was "laying by the pool"...I shouldn't have pushed you then. I didn't know you were going to to bust off 24 out-of-control miles...maybe like 18-20 but not 24. Rest up.

From Bill on Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 17:53:30

time for new shoes!!!

Total Distance
6.40

morning - felt sick most of the day yesterday and last night. Then this morning, I just still felt off and decided not to run. Later in the day, around 11 I felt a bit better so I went for a jog. 6.4 on Dino Track Trail. Took it very slow and easy, stomach still turning a bit. but I made it through it. (Glycerin)

 Hit goals for the week pretty good.  Being sick kept me from hitting 90 like I wanted. 

goals for next week:  try to recover a little.  Run whatever I can, I have our track invite Fri and Sat which makes it very hard to run - so whatever I get will be good.

Total Distance
12.00

afternoon - 5 Mall run from PVHS.  Ran with Bake at a pretty decent pace of 6:45 ave.  felt a little sluggish at first. (Landreth)

PM - 7 Green Springs run.  Really enjoyed a nice evening run. (Cumulus) 

Total Distance
13.00

AM - 8 on Factory Stores run. Tired and crappy. A pretty bad run and I didn't want to do it. I am not in the correct mental state right now. I guess I'll just keep pushing through it. (Glycerin)

evening - 5 on Washington Parkway.  It was cold and windy with a hard driving rain.  I really enjoyed it.  For some reason it kind of broke up the monotony of running I am feeling right now.  I am so mentally and physically drained.  (Glycerin)

I decided that I am going to do a few things with my running to help me break out of this rut.  First, this week I am not even going to worry about running - I'll do it when I can and want.  through all this hard training, I have lost the real reason I love to run and only focused on the training/racing aspect.  Second, I am going to skip my 800's this week.  I am physically too burned out to do them.  And, I keep beating myself up because I keep putting them off.  So I resolved to allow to myself to miss them this week.  Hopefully this will get me feeling a littler fresher and stronger in the long run.  Backing down this week may cost me in the short run, but it needs to be done.  Thanks to those that responded the other day and noticed some trends in my training and running that I didn't since I was so involved personally.  I think it takes someone on the outside to notice those types of things sometimes.


 

Comments
From Bill on Tue, Mar 20, 2007 at 12:00:31

We should hook up once in a while for that morning run. I feel your pain brother.

From Dustin Ence on Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 11:02:16

Hang in there Dave. Like you mentioned you have been building a really good base the last few months and you should be fine taking a little pressure off of yourself this week. The next few weeks should be enjoyable weeks for you as you continue to prepare for Boston. I know last year I went out to Boston with the attitude to have a good time and take in the whole experience, of course once the race started I wanted to compete and I raced about as well as my training allowed. I think you have already put in a lot of good quality miles and I know as you begin to taper a little you'll still be running and training at a high level, but as you stated in your post you need to find that joy and excitement that comes from running. I know for me last year when I was training in the few weeks leading up to the marathon I would focus my attention on both the actual marathon and my game plan, but also on my travel plan and what I wanted to see and do. Having numerous things to think about helped the miles roll on by. I would assume most hardcore runners can maintain a more serious focus on their running for a longer period of time. I just know I look forward to my easy runs or days as a time to not worry so much about pace, or race goals, but more as a time to reflect, relax, and think about life. OK, I'm starting to sound like Dr. Phil and I hate the guy so I'll sign off for now. By the way, I got the job out at Hurricane Intermediate, so I will be teaching 7th grade Utah History next year.

From Breanna on Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 13:33:41

Hi Dave,

I was just wondering what the schedule of events is for Friday and Saturday.

From Dave Holt on Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 14:16:54

The 1600 is on Friday - 1st event; probably 3 heats of girls starting with two unseeded ones then the seeded fast heat. 4x800 is the last event on Friday night.

Saturday starts with the 3200 and hopefully on 2 heats.

From Jeff on Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 19:27:54

Pre Lives

From Ally on Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 20:48:22

Pre is ugly!

From Sasha Pachev on Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 20:49:21

Dave - some ideas to correct the feeling. I looked at your training in the last few months. It does not look like you were ready for anything more than 65 miles a week. You probably still are not. If I were to use one word to describe your training it would be impulsive. That word now should become steady. I suggest you follow a couple of rules below:

Monday-Friday - no days less than 8, but no days more than 12. Saturday - no more than a total of 18. Drop all track speed work for now. It only makes you tired for the true marathon training. And your speed is not what limits you right now, you can get up to the Trials qualifier with your current short distance speed. However, do your threshold tempos (3-5 miles at 5:40 pace on a flat surface), and your marathon pace tempos 10-12 miles at 6:00-6:10 pace flat. Ease off on easy runs - no faster than 7:30, if you are feeling speedy, run a mile in 5:30 to get it out of you, then run easy thinking about that mile. Make sure to get plenty of sleep, and eat qualify food - natural, lots of fruits and vegetables, do not push the limits of your body's ability to assimilate food, give it good stuff. I think with this a PR in Boston is a good possibility.

From Dave Holt on Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 09:00:31

Thanks for the ideas Sasha. When I initially read "impulsive" I thought, "No. I have been pretty careful building up and really keep my workouts planned." But upon examining your ideas a little more I think what your saying is that planning needs to be looked at a little better as well as how the runs are carried out. As far as why my workouts are how they are: A major weakness in my marathoning is dying at the end, so I have implemented more long runs to counter that. I really think it is going to help. Second with speed. I think track work gives a mental toughness that one can't get anywhere else and (and this is just my thought) to be an elite marathoner, you need to be a fast 10K runner and up. You have more experience then I do, however, and I will look at implementing some changes in my workouts.

From Sasha Pachev on Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 12:07:24

Dave - at least for me, long runs taken to an extreme (more than 22 miles) only accelerated the crash. However, consistent steady daily mileage (no less than 13 but no more than 16, with 80% of the daily distance done in one run) combined with 10-12 mile tempos at marathon pace helped mitigate the wall, even though the long runs were rarely over 18, and often only 16. I could still hang in there and run the second half OK even if I were too aggressive going out.

You are right that a fast 10 K is important for running a fast marathon. Indeed, you cannot run a marathon at a faster pace than your best 10 K. However, if it takes too much mental toughness for you to run a good 10 K, you are only pushing your 10 K further way from your marathon pace, your marathon pace does not follow. You need shorter distance training when you find yourself stuck in a rut in your tempos, or when your performance patterns start to show you are maxing out your speed. It is also helpful when you feel you have bad form.

Also, to feel a true 10 K pain, your interval needs to be at least 1.5 miles, either that, or you really need to cut down your rest. Otherwise, you end up powering through your intervals anaerobically, which trains you for the mile, and a 5 K to a certain extent, but not for longer distances.

From Dave Holt on Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 12:38:43

Thanks Sasha, that's one of the things I love about the blog - Your's and others' experience is something that most of us can learn A LOT from.

Total Distance
9.00

afternoon - 9 on the GreenS/PowerL/Middleton trail.  No watch, just trying to enjoy running and life a little bit more than I have in the past week.  I'm continuing to struggle with both.  (Glycerin)

Comments
From bc on Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 09:16:51

From bc on Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 09:25:09

I'm coming down for the meet and I'm looking for some good runs and I would enjoy not going alone. friday night and an early Saturday Long run before the meet. If you or a group are getting together for runs could you pass it along. I would like to see some of you guys down theres fun runs. Open to trails, roads or what ever.

Bill Cobler

From Dave Holt on Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 09:33:04

Bill I'm not sure what I'll be running this weekend - with the meet and all. But contact Clyde Behunin (superfly) or Steve Hooper and they will steer you in the right direction.

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0.00

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0.00

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0.00

Today was the first day in a few that I actually wanted to run - but I couldn't.  I envied Clyde when he came to the track meet and talked about the race.  I wish I would have been there to push him a little.

I am now ready to run next week. 

Comments
From Bill on Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 12:50:07

Welcome back Dave. The week off will not hurt you at all. start slow and do not over train. that means no freak runs of 24 miles at one time. You could donate your GPS to a old slow runner:):):) That would make you feel alot better!!

Total Distance
11.00

Back at it!

PM - 11 on treadmill at a decline preparing for downhill running. Felt good. Took the 1st mile at 7:30 and then the next 10 at 6:58. Felt great. Time just went by nice and easy. Wasn't working hard at all, and I really just enjoyed running again. (Glycerin)

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From Steve Hooper on Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 13:00:46

Hey Dave, good to hear you had a good run yesterday. Just thought I would let you know we're planning on doing a small speed work-out at the SCHS Track at 7:15pm if you want to come.

From April on Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 14:15:53

hey dave,

just wanted to drop a quick line about your foot/calf pain. as a massage therapist & runner i've found that when the small muscles on the sole of the foot get tight they cause all kinds of problems & pains in the foot & lower leg. slowly rolling a golf ball across them with good pressure hurts like no other, but works wonders. you may already be doing this, but i thought i'd mention it just in case. those little guys cramp up often in runners & cause pain all over the place.

hope you continue to enjoy your runs.

Total Distance
11.50

PM - 10 x 1/2 miles on the treadmill @ 1%.  Started with a 2.5 mile warmup at 7:30 pace.  Legs were a little sore from yesterday's downhill run but slowly loosened up, so I took it with no incline.  Then moved it up to 1% and hit the speed.  First few were tough, and I thought there was no way I was making 10.  So I started shooting for 8 or so.  Kept recovery and 800 time both right at 2:30.  As I kept going, it didn't get any easier, but I convinced myself I could do it and just kept pushing.  Made it all the way through them.  Cooled down with a mile back at no incline and 7:30.  

Right knee had been giving me a little problem before I took the days off last week.  Didn't seem to bug me too much, but was a little stiff.  During the last few repeats, my left knee seemed to act up a little. (Cumulus)
 

Total Distance
12.00

AM - back on the early morning bandwagon. 4 on treadmill at 7:30 and decline. Took it easy this morning. As I got going my right knee that was a bit achy last night seemed to lock up. There was a decent amount of pain behind my knee. Just as I thought maybe I shouldn't go today (about 1/2 mile into it) it went away - but I'll keep an eye on it. The stiffness in my left knee seems to be coming back a little. (Cumulus)

afternoon - 8 on River Run.  Went out the first 2 miles with my distance runners.  Enjoyed the coldness.  After they turned back, I continued on.  And it got quite a bit chilly with some driving rain.  I kept the run very easy paced.  Didn't Gramin it, but just timed it for my knowledge.  Time was just over 59 minutes.  A 7:30 pace would be 60 mins.  So just under 7:30.  Knees felt a lot like this morning - left knee sore throughout, right knee a bit painful until it warmed up. (Landreth)


Comments
From superfly on Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 09:06:43

Sometimes 4-5 ib's right before I go to bed help little pains like that go away with me. But only like once or twice a week. You may already try this?

From Bill on Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 10:02:02

Hey Coach.

ibrofen with food does miracles. My son works at Harmons with one of your track kids. I guess he was pretty upset about not being able to go to the track meet last weekend. Hope to see you saturday. Do you wash down that peanut butter sand with milk?

From Dave Holt on Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 12:36:30

At home I do, but at school... Nope.

From Ruth on Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 22:46:07

Good luck with your knees. Decker on his blog says he misses your coaching (ha). No really, you're doing a good job! (I'll keep saying that unless I suck at the 800m tomorrow.)

From April on Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 09:46:49

with all the foot/knee pains you've been having, i have to ask if you get your calves & quads worked over well? it really is amazing how a little knot in those muscles can pull at the tendons & cause muscle & joint pain. (and actually most massage therapists miss those knots) some days you'll have pain, some days it feels okay, which means the body is just trying to adapt, but the knots are still there & you'll continue to have days of pain so long as they are. i've learned a really effective technique at releasing runners muscles & i'd be happy to work on you if ever you'd like. i'm at legends salon out by santa clara.

Total Distance
10.00

AM - up and at early (even though I didn't want to, but there is a track meet this afternoon, so its the only time I will get).  10 on treadmill - no incline and 7:30 for 1st mile and 6:58 for the rest.  Knees weren't sore this morning! Plantar feeling good lately!  But I am a bit sore - from the downhill run Monday.  Even stopped to stretch a little here and there. (Cumulus)

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From April on Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 14:02:00

yes, 7th grade is quite an age- fun age for teaching p.e., but to be with them in a classroom all day is another story, you're right!

the type of massage i do is pretty deep & really cleans the muscles out & puts them in place. don't schedule it on the day of or before a long/hard run, and the day after you get worked on should be an easy day. also, because i move the muscles so much i'd give yourself 2 weeks- 10 days before your boston race, just to let your body rebalance and get used to the muscles being where they should be. knotted muscles don't perform like they should, and that causes related muscles to overcompensate, so once the knots are released, it's more of a whole body release. so give yourself a day or so to get used to it. you will really feel worked (just ask steve!) but man you'll feel good!

From Bill on Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 10:23:30

Dave, I am going for 70 this week. I think I would like to run the ogden Marathon. Dustin is also thinking about it. hope to see you Saturday.

From Dave Holt on Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 12:25:20

I would like to run Ogden as well. I've heard nothing but good things about it. But it is on the weekend of State Track, so I guess I won't be doing it.

Total Distance
23.05

afternoon - 23.05 on Green Valley Loop. Last long run before Boston. Felt good to get it done and ran a little better than last time. (I'll give a little more info when I have my watch with me). Ave. 7:20 miles. (Glycerin 191.6)

Total Distance
12.65

morning - Club run from DC 12.65 out into Bloomington and starting up Bulldog Road, then loop through the desert in some washes and back toward Bloomington.  Ended up jumping over and through some fences (sorry about those tights Bill!) and making our own trail for a bit.  But it was nice, helped keep it a good recovery run pace and enjoyable. Ave. 7:45. (Landreth 98.55 - still the best shoe ever, I put it on and it is like heaven)

Total Distance
10.50

afternoon - 10.5 on GreenS/PowerL/WaterT loop. Started with my team up into Green Springs for two miles. Continued on alone through the unusually hot weather (mid 80's). Happy to see that another fat-cat developer and group of city councilmen are lining their pockets by tearing up more of the desert above Green Springs. This time they took away my trailhead, so I had to run right through their bulldozing to get where I wanted to go. I wonder about the many tortoises I have seen in this very area - although I am not a speed demon by any means, I do think I can go faster than a tortoise, and I don't think they can outrun a bulldozer smashing in their dens and ripping out their food supply. To the run... I just kept it relaxed and easy, even down the turkey farm road and enjoyed the prelude to summer's heat. (Glycerin 202.1)

Comments
From Bill on Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 10:23:22

Way to rock Dave.

you just found a new cause. Save the desert tortoise.

From Superfly on Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 10:53:12

I ran through there yesterday afternoon. It's like I was only gone a couple days and they took that whole other side of the wash out. I guess they will go all the way up to that gate you have to jump over. Sucks!

From Steve on Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 13:03:03

Hey I'm planning on speed tonight @ 7:15 @ the SCHS Track if you're interested.

Total Distance
9.50

PM - 9.5 on treadmill. Combined two workouts into one. Started with a 2 mile warmup on a decline at 7:30. Then got into 3x1/2 miles at 5:00 pace with 2:30 recovery and 1% incline. These were a little tougher than I thought they would be. Then got back into the other workout with the next 3 miles at a decline again (trying to get used to a bit of downhill running for Boston). Then .5 miles flat. Followed by 1 mile at 2% incline to mix things up a little and work some other muscles and finally 1 mile flat with speed up to 6:58 just for a little quicker leg turnover to end it. (Cumulus 224)

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From Bill on Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 13:50:23

Hey Dave,

your Relentless!! Your ready for Boston!!! I can't tell you what im smoking!!!

Total Distance
10.50

afternoon - 10.5 on GreenSprings/WaterTank trail. A warm one. Started the run with one of my middle distance runners and then sent her on her way and continued on. Pace felt a little quicker than Monday, didn't time it though. Pushed a little more on the downhill - especially the S-Turn and Twin Lakes mile. Was a little weary of hitting a snake seeking shade in a bush, but luckily none. I want to work out my muscle soreness before leaving for Boston. (Landreth 109)

Comments
From Dustin Ence on Thu, Apr 05, 2007 at 11:08:24

Dave, I've heard of the Canal Trail before, but I'm not quite sure where it starts and where it goes. If you can explain to me a little more about it. Thanks

From BILL on Thu, Apr 05, 2007 at 18:57:29

DAVE, WHAT IS YOUR BIB NUMBER FOR BOSTON. i WANT TO KEEP TRACK OF YOUR PROGRESS!

From Bill Cobler on Fri, Apr 06, 2007 at 01:24:12

Dave, Good luck in Boston, I had a great time there last year. Check out the north end area for great Italian food. The evening after the race, it was late, my family and another couple were eating in a small restaurant and while I was in the restroom a tall gentleman in a three piece suit came over from his table and talked to my kids and asked if I raced. He asked how I did, gave congrats and said to tell me to keep it up and left. When I got back to the table they told me what he had said and I waved to him as he left. It turned out that he was Alan Culpepper, and had a pretty good day himself. I'm not running there this year. Last year it was my kick off to 8 marathons in 7 months, not recommended. You have trained well just run it like any race but enjoy yourself. It is a different race and can bring great memories.

Total Distance
10.00

PM - after track meet, headed from PVHS up to GreenSprings and ran on the golf course for a while then home. The temps. were perfect at 8:00 and running on the grass was great. It brought back a flood of cross-country memories. High school cross-country was one of my happiest times. I loved the sport, my team, my school, winning, running fast, dominating. I really learned a lot about life from that sport - good and bad. One of the few regrets in my life is that I didn't transition that to college. Once I got there I only focused on the bad and let it overwhelm me to the point that I quit after 1 1/2 years. Oh well... just another lesson learned. Anyway, the run was very enjoyable. (Cumulus 234)

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From Bill on Fri, Apr 06, 2007 at 10:43:50

Dave,

I loved xc. much more them track. the people on the team were alot closer. it was truly a team effort and winning was so much sweeter.

From Ally on Fri, Apr 06, 2007 at 19:11:27

Running did a lot for you in high school apparantly, and just think about what you are doing for us xc and track kids. Just a thought.

Total Distance
10.00

afternoon - 10 on Junction run. Nice warm run. Kept a pretty good little pace and enjoyed the run. I think I have done a much better job then ever before at keeping some pretty decent miles up to the marathon. (Glycerin 212.1)

Total Distance
10.00

morning - decided not to run the Banker because of family Easter commitments and the need to run more before or after, so I just went out on my own in the morning.  Wendy's run with 11th extension.  A lot like yesterday.  Felt pretty good and just ran.  (Glycerin 222.1)

Met goals for the week which were to go 60 and keep a decent amount of miles for a longer time than usual leading up to the marathon.

Goals for next week: hit whatever miles come, probably around 40.  Enjoy the build up to Boston and not get too nervous.

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From ArmyRunner on Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 10:29:18

Dave,

Enjoy the week this week and relax knowing that you will have a great time at Boston. The experience of Boston is what it is all about. Even though mine was a very painful journey I will always remember the experience. I do not know of any other race that has the amount of people lining the course the entire way. Enjoy this week and let the legs enjoy the easy running. Have fun at Boston!

The knee seems to be getting better this week so I will keep at the ice and ibuprofin for a few more days and see how things progress but things are looking better right now.

From Dustin Ence on Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 10:36:31

I would say the same thing as Ted, just enjoy this week, I'm getting really excited for you guys should be a lot of fun. Let me know your bib number so I can track your progress while I'm at school on Monday

From Bill on Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 11:32:13

Dave,

Boston will be such a fun experience for you. I am not sure what your goals are for Boston? Most people just go to experience the traditions of Boston. And not worry about there time. The entire 26.2 miles is filled with people cheering for you. It is awesome! If you put your name on your arms or legs people will chant your name as you pass.

From Jeff on Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 20:40:54

I have been looking at stuff on the internet about the Boston Marathon and it looks really cool. I am glad you are going. Have an awsome time!

Total Distance
5.00

PM - 5 on treadmill at decline.  Started off with a mile at 7:30, then one at 6:58, next one at 6:00, then back to 6:58 and 7:30.  Turnover felt good.  No soreness in knees, foot, or leg.  I'm ready to roll.  Wore Ohana Racers just to get the feel of them since it had been so long since wearing them. (Ohana 26)

Comments
From Bill on Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 10:17:08

Dave,

your going to be relentless come next monday. when are you leaving?

From Maria on Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 15:29:09

Dave,

good luck in Boston! I'm sure you'll have a great time. As everyone said, it's about the experience. I have very fond memories of my Boston race, although it was almost my slowest time. I really enjoyed the crowds and the atmosphere. Looks like it will be chilly, which is better than too warm (as forecasted for my marathon!).

Total Distance
3.00

PM - 3 PVHS to home. My stupid Jeep wouldn't start again. So I ran home from school after the meet. I should have run more, but I had just about had it. I was tired, hungry, and mad at my car. I just wanted to go to crash. So that was enough. A few more miles won't make or break me now. (Landreth 112)

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From Bill on Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 10:16:48

Dave,

Every thing happens for a reason. Your jeep wanted you to run a few miles:):) what day are you leaving for Bean town.

At Marathon arrayed, to the battle shock we ran

And our mettle we displayed, foot to foot, man to man

And our name and fame shall not die.

~ Aristotle, "The Acharnians," 425 B.C.

From Dustin Ence on Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 10:20:35

Sorry to hear about the Jeep. I've been having some problems with my truck. I'm actually going to be trading in both my Ford F150 and the Honda Accord and looking to get a Toyota Tacoma.

Well, I bet you're getting excited for Boston. If you can snag an extra poster or anything free at the expo, I would like one. (You know how I am I'll take anything that is free)

Do you guys have a track meet tomorrow at Hurricane?

From Bill on Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 11:21:01

Monday, Apr 16

High: 38 °F RealFeel®: 23 °F

Mainly cloudy, windy and cold with rain possible.

hopefully the wind will be at your back.

From Ruth on Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 13:13:51

Hey Holt - I've been puking my guts out today, so I guess I won't make it to any practices. Good luck at BOSTON!!!

From Toby Salazar on Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 13:26:31

Dave have a great race and take those hills in stride, good luck.

From Dave Holt on Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 13:36:07

Thanks for the good lucks everyone. I will need them.

From Bill on Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 17:42:09

And an expected rain the night before the race could leave the Hopkinton-to-Boston roads somewhat slick. There is a also a predicted 15 mph wind which would come from the east, toward the runners.

From J-Free on Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 19:38:39

"There is no such thing as bad weather, just soft people." Bill Bowerman

Boston is Yours!!!

Total Distance
7.75

PM - ran after a very hectic day of trying to get ready to leave for Boston and multiple broken down cars and towing trips to the shop and all sorts of stuff.  So it was very nice to just run - even though it was on the treadmill (I just turned on Lost and enjoyed it).  1 mile warm up at 7:30.  Then decline at 7:30 for a mile.  3 miles decline at marathon (hopefully!) pace 5:52 - okay 6:00 is true marathon pace goal for me, but why not push myself?  Next a mile still at decline at 7:30.  Then recovery mile - flat - at 7:30.  Show wasn't at a commercial so I kept going.  Put it on 2 then 3 percent incline for .25 and then .5 at 4%.  It was fun to go uphill.  (Cumulus 241.75)

Total Distance
7.00

AM - 7 on Green Spring loop from home.  Life is nuts right now.  No car, trying to substitute stuff ready, track meet stuff ready, grade stuff ready, kids ready, me ready all to take off this afternoon.  So up early and ran 7 miles.  Felt good.  I liked the early run and enjoyed the nip in the air.  I'm not saying I'll enjoy the NIP in Boston though.  I am stoked for the race and very excited to get on the plane and leave all this behind for a few days - except my girls, I'll miss them too much so I'll not think of that.  Anyway... (Glycerin 229.1)

Race Number is 1245 for anyone that wants to check up on me.  I am nervous about that though.  Makes me really feel like I have to do well if people are watching my time.  

Good luck to all those others running this weekend - Boston or otherwise. 

Comments
From April on Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 10:15:43

hey dave, just go enjoy it! you've worked hard to get here & this is the payoff. i wish you all the best & hope you have a really great race- i'm sure you will! i'm excited for the day i'll get to experience it also.

From Chad on Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 11:59:16

Have a great race, Dave. It sounds like you are mentally ready (not to mention physically ready) and I look forward to reading about a strong race.

From Mike on Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 11:59:56

Good luck Dave. The hard part is over so enjoy.

From Bill on Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 12:57:37

Dave,

Don't forget your shoes:):)

From Fre on Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 19:08:54

^^^ All that is so true. Especially the shoes (that's so funny, made me smile a lot)!

From ashman on Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 20:56:26

Good Luck Dave, Remember to be "Relentless"

From ashman on Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 20:58:23

Sorry I missed you, 1245 sounds like a good number.

Total Distance
5.00

Made it to Boston!

Evening run - 5 with Clyde around hotel area up into Chelsea.  Nice weather.  Wish it would hold.  Ave. was 6:50 with a little pickup of pace on the way back. (Glycerin 234.1)

Total Distance
5.00

morning - 5 miles with Clyde down to ocean from hotel and along storm wall.  Kind of a cool little run up on the storm wall.  Weather could not be better than this morning.  Too bad race isn't today.  But you live with it. (Glycerin 239.1)

Comments
From Dustin Ence on Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 13:02:00

Glad you guys made it there, hope you're having a good time. I ran the Race 4 Kids this morning 10K. I took 3rd, Steve Hooper was 2nd, and Steve Olsen won the race. I will fill out more info on the blog later. The race was ok, I thought Hooper ran smart, he stayed with me the first three miles, then took off. I didn't run that great, but I was one minute faster than laster year so I was happy with that. Hope the weather turns out to be good for you guys.

From Jeff on Sun, Apr 15, 2007 at 22:55:07

Fight through that weather coach, I'll pray for you :)

From Sasha Pachev on Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 13:27:08

Congratulations on a PR in Boston, especially given the conditions. I was expecting you to run 2:43-2:44 under the circumstances. A little bit of struggle after 20 miles, but that's ok, you'll get over it with time.

From Ally on Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 13:35:28

NICE JOB COACH!! You are my hero congrats on the PR.

From Dustin Ence on Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 13:37:46

Way to go Dave, great race!

Total Distance
4.30

morning - debated to do a nice easy run today or not - being Sunday.  But we decided that we needed to get out and stretch out the legs.  So went out to Revere and around a bit.  Planned on three but took a wrong turn and ended up adding a bit.  I am ready for this race.  I wish the weather was. (Glycerin 243.4)

Race: Boston Marathon (26.2 Miles) 02:40:42, Place overall: 129
Total Distance
26.20

Boston Marathon - Here is a quicky (more later being on hotel computer). Race was beastly, horrible, about the worst thing ever. I loathed it. And I set a PR! Hooray for me. More later. (Ohana 52.2)

Here is the race report:

Pre-race: got out to Hopkinton and just barely made it into the gym. Stayed dry in there and just found a nice bleacher hideout and chilled with Clyde. When it was time to go, walked up to the start and tried to keep feet dry, but lost hope of that after about 10 steps. Kept a garbage bag on for warmth and dryness. The whole scene was very cool.

mile 1 - 5:56 started off in a great position. Just about 10 rows behind the elite. It was neat to see them start off. Quickly we were passed by many who thought they were running a 5K.

mile 2 - 5:45 basically just flowing with the crowd now. Not much else you can do.

mile 3 - 5:46 somewhere around here I threw off my t-shirt. Someone now has a souvenir Dixie College basketball shirt.

mile 4 - 5:40 times are just a bit quick, but things are moving so smooth. Still in the craziness of the start stage.

mile 5 - 5:48 / 28:57 (my garmin was hitting splits just about 5-10 seconds before most of the mile markers) Wanted 29:00 minutes right here and that's exactly where I was. Coming into the race, I really thought I could hit right around 2:35-2:36. Now that the weather was beastly, I knew it would affect things, but I still wanted to give it a try. Just like fake Bill Rodgers told Clyde and I - You have to try or you'll never know.

mile 6 - 5:41 still moving along pretty good.  Around this time, we were doing a lot of jostling to find spots and groups to help break the wind.

mile 7 -5:46

mile 8 - 5:52 somewhere in here, Clyde and I decided to drop back off the group that we were with.  It was just moving a little too quick as it kept pushing from one set of stragglers to the next to break the wind.  So we really settled in mostly to ourselves.

mile 9 - 5:47 many comments about our ugly hats (they made us stand out and got us quite a few cheers).

mile 10 - 5:58 / 58:03 a few deceiving hills around these miles.  Not hard, just rollers that kind of add up to take it out of you.  Wanted about 58:50, so things were going smooth - maybe a little too smooth.  I should have been hitting just below 6 and I was hitting around 5:50 for most of the section.

mile 11 - 6:04 First mile over 6.  Next marathon, NO miles over 6.

mile 12 - 5:56 Since I was hitting so well right here I wanted to try and keep them under 6.

mile 13 - 5:57 I am really thinking about an unbelievable time here.  But I know I have a long way to go and need to get mentally ready.

mile 14 - 5:37 the time reflects the Wellesley crowd.  We had been hearing the roar for a mile.  When we went by, we were a little to ourselves so the girls just went nuts as we gave five through the whole stretch.  It was fun and deafening.  My ears were ringing as we exited.  I needed this about mile 22 to get me going again.

mile 15 - 5:59 / 1:27:37 settled back down and started to get ready for the hills.  I knew they were coming and the wind was picking up quite a bit.  Wanted to be at 1:29.

mile 16 - 5:42 drop into Newton.  I am still feeling very good.

mile 17 - 6:14 the overpass here was the beginning of the end for me.  The wind was ripping and my legs just didn't have the zip they had just a mile or two earlier.  Not a good sign with the bigger hills coming.

mile 18 - 6:05 Newton Hills

mile 19 - 6:09

mile 20 - 6:15 / 1:58:05 Wanted to be around 1:59.  Clyde was pushing for under 2:00 to give some wiggle room to finish under 2:40.  Things are looking great.  The hills are tough, but not beastly.  I didn't think they would kill me - I train on much more difficult stuff.  But...

mile 21 - 6:46 here is where I lost it.  I tried to go with Clyde as he led up Heartbreak.  My Heartbreak was that I just watched him slowly pull away.  I have GOT to get tougher and not let people pull away.  Clyde's support had been great the whole race and it made me feel strong that I was running with him, knowing what type of runner he is.  When he was gone, I just lost all desire to race and it turned into "just finish this thing".  And of course this is where I went from having fun to hating it.  Even my drunk buddies that tried to run with me "All the the way to Beacon 1245!" only gave me support for about 2 blocks.  After that they probably passed out or something!

mile 22 - 6:03  Clyde is still there about 50 meters in front of me and I want to get back to him.  I just can't close anything.

mile 23 - 6:25 See him slipping away as well as a top 100 finish as a few runners start to come by me.

mile 24 - 6:39 Couldn't use the downhill at all.  I hoped I could get some turn-over and pull back up.  But the legs were thrashed.

mile 25 - 6:57 / 2:30:56 Wanted 2:28.  But was still on pace for under 2:40 and I really wanted it.  At the time I couldn't go any quicker.  But now writing this, I am like "Why did I not pick it up more?" 

mile 26 - 7:21 DANG IT! When I needed it most, it was over.  Saw Ally, but head was spinning, I was solely focused on the finish line.  The turns at the end killed me.  I couldn't hit any sort of rhythm (I don't think any was there to be found anyway). 

26.2 ( actually .32 by this time on my Garmin, with the early splits adding up). 2:22 Really tried to go as I knew I was close to 2:40 - a 2:39 sounds so much better than a 2:40.  But the finish line seemed to move away from me.

Clyde waited at the end for me and we froze, cramped, hobbled into the med tent where our temps were pretty low 91 (me) 94 (Clyde).  When the adrenaline of racing wore off, my body realized how cold it was and it just shut down.  The cramping was severe (bruising).  My head was spinning.  About 5 people were helping me, and I just now realized that I can't even recall what any of them even looked like.  But once I got feeling warmed up, I started feeling a lot better and we got out of there.

Well, like I said... it was a pretty brutal experience.  But not nearly as bad now a few days later.  Back to Boston?  Naw.  Next marathon?  Time to start getting ready!


Comments
From steve hooper on Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 17:36:52

Dave, Congrats on a well run race, even with the crazy weather you did it! Kendra and I were watching the Internet all morning keeping track of your splits. I was getting knots in my stomach I was so excited about your times. Looking forward to talking to you about your race when you get back.

From Mike K on Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 18:27:30

You made the SL Tribune already.

Clyde Behunin of St. George was the first Utahn to cross the finish line in the 111th running of the Boston Marathon.

The 28-year old finished 98th overall, in a time of 2 hours, 29.15 minutes. Nicole Hugie, 22, of Taylorsville finished in 3:05:38, the first Utah woman to complete the 26.2 mile race.

More than 300 Utahns competed in the historic marathon, which this year was run in difficult conditions - a nor'easter full of driving rains and below-average temperatures.

Kenya's Robert Cheruiyo repeated as the men's champion, crossing the finish line in 2:14:13, which was the slowest time in 30 years.

On the women's side, Lidiya Grigoryeva of Russia crossed first, in 2:29:18.

David Holt, 29, Washington, placed 129th as the second Utah male to finish the race, crossing in a time of 2:30:30 and 42-year old Molly Behunin, 42, of Ogden was the second Utah woman to complete the race in 3:17:45.

From the online edition.

Nice job on a horrible day. Go get some chowder.

From Dustin Ence on Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 18:34:04

Great job Dave, that a way to make the running club proud. You and Clyde did awesome, especially considering the conditions. Like Steve said I was on the computer all morning tracking your progress. Did you find the end to be difficult? That is where I struggled the most last year was the last about 7 to 8 miles, just staying focused. Well, hopefully you guys have been able to warm up a bit and get some of your energy back, looking forward to hearing about all the details. I posted on Clyde's blog that I was inspired today, so I signed up for the Ogden Marathon. I don't know what kind of shape I'll be in, but will at least be good to push myself the next few weeks toward a running goal.

From Jon on Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 18:46:43

Good job, Dave! Congrats!

From Ruthie on Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 19:02:48

You did an AMAZING JOB in crappy weather today! We watched your times during school as well as we could and told just about everyone what a great race you ran. And Mrs. Musso even made sure that you made it onto the announcements. It kind of made me depressed to see that your 5k and 10k times were both faster than my PRs. Why did I have to be a girl? Oh well. WAY TO STS!!!

Cappy talked to us today about events for the meet and had us write down what events people plan on doing in order of who's fastest. I wasn't sure whether you were planning on us running a 4x800 or a Medley or anything, so we didn't put one down for either, but I think we'll be giving the list to him tomorrow. So if you see this before then, I would appreciate some input on what races to sign us up for and such.

I've signed up for the 800m, 1600m and 3200m in case we're not doing any relays (good plan?). Judd is planning on doing the 800m there since she liked it (and did pretty well in it) at Hurr, but was wanted to know whether to do the 400m or the 200m as well.

Great job in your race and have a safe flight back!

From Jeff on Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 19:31:20

Coach you are the best, you are my hero! Like Ruth said we got on the internet as much as we could to see how you were doing. You are one fast guy. I can't wait to talk to you when you get home!!!

From ashman on Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 22:04:52

Great job Dave! and under brutal conditions! Way to fight it out.

From Toby on Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 10:20:11

From Toby Salazar on Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 10:22:50

Dave what a great race you had, I watched it on TV and the conditions where tough, it inspiered me so much I decided to go for a run, I will be in St George in a few days and will have to run with you guys and you can tell us all about it, take care and congrats again.

Toby

From Maria on Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 16:30:46

Congratulations, Dave! What a great result in horrible conditions! Rest well, and bask in your glory - well deserved :).

From RivertonPaul on Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 17:36:52

Most impressive, especially for slower folk like me.

From John on Wed, Apr 18, 2007 at 09:22:40

How anyone could run a PR in those conditions is beyond me. Maybe it wasn't as bad as predicted, but it looked like a tough day to run 26.2.

Congrats!

From Bill on Wed, Apr 18, 2007 at 10:38:17

Dave,

your relentless Dude! I am amazed. just in shock and awe. Athletes like you are rare breed. Bill Rogers who? here comes Dave Holt! looking forward to running with you again and talking to you about the girls at wellsley. Did you get a number?

From Ally on Wed, Apr 18, 2007 at 12:58:37

Hey holt, how'd you like your house last night? Thanks for being such an inspiration to all us kids, it means a lot to have a coach that can get out there go for huge goals and not lose heart, even through the beastliness of it all! Which mile did you dedicate to me again?

From evan on Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 15:15:53

You found the words I was looking for about the finish line..... only it should be why does it keep moving further away.....

Total Distance
3.00

morning - easy recovery run down to the ocean. The waves were crashing the storm wall where we had run the other day. The road was closed, and junk was everywhere thrown out of the ocean. Was extremely sore and tight. My right knee hurt tremendously. It was so painful I could barely move. But the run was good for me... getting out and moving and stretching and all that.
(Glycerin 246.4)

Well so long Boston. I may never be back. But it was a great experience and although very tough and brutal I learned a lot from it and enjoyed many parts of it.

Total Distance
0.00

Couldn't get a run in today, and I don't feel too bad about it.  Got home way to late to try and run before school (in bed at 3:30).  Then a track meet in Moapa and didn't get home from it until 11:30.  So I get something in tomorrow.  Soreness getting a bit better.  Bruises on calves going away.

Comments
From Bill on Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 13:11:12

Dave,

glad you don't feel bad about it. too many times when i miss a run i feel bad about it. But truth be told. I don't become a better runner when running on a run down body.

I am still amazed about your performance in boston. WOW.

From Bill on Fri, Apr 20, 2007 at 10:33:08

your a running legend.

From Mik'L on Fri, Apr 20, 2007 at 11:29:29

The fake Bill Rodgers...still too funny.

From James on Mon, Apr 23, 2007 at 00:53:41

Dave,

I never got a chance to congratulate you on your PR. I am in the same boat as you, I can't quite get over that stupid 2:40 hump. But we'll do it this year. Your Boston was a 2:35 anywhere else, awesome race! Glad you and Clyde didn't get hypothermia.

Total Distance
6.80

evening - club run with Steve and Bill from the store and down into Santa Clara.  They took it pretty easy for me and it helped loosen things up a bit. (Landreth 118.8)

Total Distance
6.80

morning - Green Springs from home.  Still a little tight, but slowly improving. (Cumulus 248.3)

Total Distance
8.00

morning - Millcreek Trail. Didn't think there was any way I could race today - Bill wanted me to help him run a 38, but I knew I couldn't do it. So after a long night of no sleep and a sick baby I went out on a trail run. Sand was a bit thick and hard on the legs. But it made me work a little harder which I think loosened up the legs a little more. Although I didn't run hard, I negative split, again just to get the legs going a little. (Glycerin 254.4)

Comments
From superfly on Mon, Apr 23, 2007 at 09:59:44

Good job getting out last week. I'm still (monday morning) sore. My left calf is way sore. I could have pulled it or whatever you do. By the way your name is in the paper today.

From your greatest fan on Mon, Apr 23, 2007 at 17:21:24

Oh Dave,

now your name is in print! your my shinning star! Are you married?

From ashman on Mon, Apr 23, 2007 at 20:31:50

Thanks Dave! I hope that St George makes up for Boston. You guys still ran a hard gutsy race in my book.

From superfly on Mon, Apr 23, 2007 at 23:04:44

Nice hat! I had to bust mine out this morning when I went out in the rain.

Total Distance
11.00

afternoon - River Run from PVHS.  Needed to get out and RUN after a frustrating practice.  Track has been hard this year... HARD. But the run was refreshing and let me think a few things out - at least for today. (Landreth 126.8)

PM - treadmill at 8:00 no incline.  Family was all asleep early, so I went downstairs and ran.  The run was easy and felt great.  For the first time since the marathon, my legs felt pretty smooth and relaxed.  Hopefully a good sign. (Cumulus 251.3) 

Total Distance
12.35

afternoon - ran over to St. George and entered for the marathon!  Started out with Ruth - she is really running great right now - and she pushed me a little quicker than I wanted to go.  Then I went up over Foremaster and weaved around town and up to the Arts Center to register.  Came back the same route.  Running in Southern Utah in the Spring is the greatest thing in the world.  Legs felt stronger and I was able to hit more miles at easy pace without trying.  Things are coming along. (Glycerin 266.75)

Total Distance
8.00

AM - Middleton 8 - up early to get a run in with a track meet this afternoon.  I felt pretty tired.  A little from the run (and the slow times showed that) and a lot from being up early.  Even though I go to bed early, I still just have a very difficult time getting up in the morning.  But I did get the run in.  (Glycerin 274.75)

Comments
From BILL on Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 10:14:26

YOUR RECOVERING VERY NICE. Are you going to run the 10 k this weekend?

From Dave Holt on Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 14:14:48

No - I have a track meet up at SUU; otherwise, I might give it a try.

From ashman on Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 20:17:31

Yeah, I know I need to back off a little. Deep down I probably have some cellular damage that is not as evident until over longer distance. I could get injured at this stage especially. I notice that also like you Ive been lets say sleeping rather deeply. Has your body been like this every night since the marathon?

From Decker on Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 23:16:15

Thanks for your words of encouragement coach. I don't know what Jeff is talking about Cappy is more like Hitler or Saddam, but not Ghandi.

From Dave Holt on Thu, Apr 26, 2007 at 09:08:02

He may not be your favorite, but... I think Jeff was just trying to find the hidden wisdom.

From Fre on Thu, Apr 26, 2007 at 20:04:22

Exactly! This has reminded me to be careful what you say, somethings you can't delete.

I didn't do any weights on the legs, just arms that day. Today I did some legs with almost no weight at all and it didn't hurt, I'll add weight slowly.

From Mik'L on Thu, Apr 26, 2007 at 21:39:17

So Kelsee didn't quit over the 800 so I think she will really run it. She willingly did handoffs and so I just went with it! De ja vu?

Total Distance
10.00

evening - meant to be an afternoon run, but turned into more of an evening run as I got started late with a longer practice and having to get ready for a meet on Friday.  Green Springs/Water Tank.  Run was apparently very slow (another reason for the late run).  I didn't time it, however.  First part of run felt pretty good, but I know I didn't push at all on the way down Turkey Farm and probably was only going 8:00 pace.  Still some fatigue in legs. (Glycerin 285.75)

Total Distance
10.00

AM - up extra early to give myself time know that I am running slower right now.  Wendy's loop with 11th extension.  Today I paid attention to my watch to try and make sure I was able to run 7:30's at least.  The first 4 weren't a problem - all around 7:20-25.  After that, I could feel the fatigue set in and I had to make myself go quicker.  Not that I was killing myself at all, but it took a noticeable effort to speed up and keep near 7:30.  I am hoping to be ready for a little stronger week next week with some harder workouts.  I need to feel a little more recovered, however, to make that happen. (Glycerin 294.75)

Comments
From Maria on Fri, Apr 27, 2007 at 11:49:46

Dave, I'm going through similar thing now: running slower than usual, and then I feel bad about it and try to push the pace, but I'm putting more effort in than I need. I know I'm not 100% back yet from Rotterdam. It's frustrating, because I feel seemingly fine, but I'm surprised to find I'm running 9:20 miles at the same effort it took to run 8:45 a month ago. We need to be patient.

Total Distance
0.00

Up way late (for me) getting home from a track meet Friday night. And then up way to early to head back up to the track meet to try and get a run in. Blah.

Had a pretty good week up to Saturday.  Got pretty steady miles in and felt like I was recovering okay.  Still a little fatigued though.

Goals for next week:  get back on the track a little.  Get back into the weight room.  Hit a long run of 15 miles.  Try and get some miles in up at the track meet in Provo. 

Total Distance
10.30

afternoon - 5.3 miles. 3.3 warm up on 2450 run.  Took it pretty easy as it was HOT today.  No sliding into summer.  Just 95+ already.  Then onto the track.  5x400 at 1:12, 1:14, 1:14, 1:15, 1:18 with 1 min recovery.  Didn't really have a set idea of what I was going for here (That is always a problem), but I was thinking 70-72 would be good.  The heat took it out of me quite a bit and being on the track was pretty vicious.  Although the pace wasn't flying, especially by the end, I was really feeling it in my lungs and kept feeling sicker after each one.  It was the first workout where I thought I was going to lose it in a long time.  Needless to say I didn't feel great.  Then cooled down for .75 mile big loop. (Cumulus 256.6)

PM - 5 mile recovery run on Washington Parkway.  Ran it backward as to get the dirt section of the run before dark if possible.  At the first I could still feel the affects of the track workout for a couple miles (Felt a little woozy and wiped out), but just kept it relaxed and was running pretty well by the end.  I enjoy evening runs like this.  Dusk out, not as many cars, no one watching, temps more comfortable.  Good recovery run, glad I did it. (Glycerin 279.75) 

Comments
From Bill on Tue, May 01, 2007 at 11:01:31

Dave, good job getting out. I am not sure if it is planters or achilles. or a combination of both. My right Heal hurts evey time i land on it. It usually takes at least a mile of warm up before I can comfortably run normal. I have been using ice bags and ibrofen to manage the pain.

From Dave Holt on Tue, May 01, 2007 at 13:41:18

PLANTAR FASCIITIS! (sp?) Fun for you. I got it last summer and am still fighting the war. I have taken a good turn for the better in the past few months, however. Nonetheless, it is still hanging on.

Go to Steve and get a Strausburg Sock. It is kind of weird at first, but you get used to it eventually. It really helped take my pain away; and now I just wear it two,three times per week just to keep the PF strong.

Total Distance
15.00

evening - 15 on Treadmill - not something I would highly recommend unless there is no way out.  This was the case for me.  Needed to run, needed to watch the kids.  The first few miles it seemed like it would never have an end.  Took it at 7:30 for 10 (felt a bit tired and slow).  Dinner was sitting heavy and causing a few issues.  At mile 10, I took about a 5 minute break and got the kids to bed, after teeth/reading/bottle/etc..., then got back on for 5 more at 6:58.  Felt a bit better when I sped up a bit and had an end in sight.  (Glycerin 294.75)

weights in the afternoon.  Usual routine, but took it lighter on weight and only 2 sets instead of 3 so as to not get sore.

W-149.5 

Comments
From Mike K on Wed, May 02, 2007 at 15:48:03

I feel your pain on the treadmill. I have to change the pace or grade every mile to keep from stepping off at two miles. Usually I warm up three miles to a decent pace then increase the grade by 1% every mile for three miles then increase the pace by 0.2 mph as I lower the grade. It is Veyo training.

Is region this week? I used to coach with Bob and I alway get a little antsy the first week of May.

From Mike K on Wed, May 02, 2007 at 16:17:25

Good luck at BYU and beyond. It isn't bad to have a forced break like Region and State. I left Judge when Luke was a freshmen and I'd like to see him run well.

If the boss (Amy) weren't leaving for Canada this weekend I would head down to Provo to watch. You should try to hook up with Sasha for a run.

From Ruth on Wed, May 02, 2007 at 20:22:51

Wow, I see what you mean about the SP thing on her blog. Crazy people. Person.

Total Distance
12.15

AM - 6 on dogpound from home. Not up quite as early, but still early. Run was SLOW. Today's two runs are both easy 6ers and I took maybe a little too much advantage of that this morning. Although I wasn't sore from weights, I was a little tight. Also, I think a bit drained from yesterday's longer run on the treadmill. Pace ave. out to be 8:10. This afternoon will be a bit better - but still easy. (Glycerin 300.75)

afternoon - 6.15 Foremaster from PVHS.  Another easy run, but I was able to pick it up a little bit better than this morning.  Ave. ended up being 7:42 even with the wind holding me back a lot on the quicker sections.  Felt good about the effort of an easy run, unlike this morning, however. (Landreth 132.95)

W-149.5

Comments
From Bill on Wed, May 02, 2007 at 09:51:54

I got the Strassburg Sock last night. It will take a while to get use to. How are the Glycerins holding up at 300 miles? Are you running the half saturday?

From Dave Holt on Wed, May 02, 2007 at 10:48:44

No half Sat. Track season = no race season. I'm not an enormous fan of the Glycerin, so I am just using them for most of my runs right now to stack up the mileage and get rid of them. But they seem to be feeling just about the same as always. I shouldn't stray from Asics; they are the best.

From April on Wed, May 02, 2007 at 22:04:42

dave, are you still suffering from plantar's? i hope i'm not being bothersome- i just wanted to let you (& bill) know that i've learned an awesome massage technique that cures plantars. i'll quit bugging you about it, but if you're ever interested club runners get their first massage for $50 from me. i know it's really expensive, but i'm telling you this stuff works.

From Dave Holt on Thu, May 03, 2007 at 09:17:31

Thanks for the info April. My PF is actually feeling pretty good. If I am ever able to save up enough money, however, I would like to get one.

From Bill on Thu, May 03, 2007 at 13:53:35

we meet at 6:15 dave. hope you can make it.

Total Distance
10.15

evening - Club run from store into Green Valley and back.  Then an additional 3+ by myself.  First of run was tough.  I thought about how tired my legs still were and mentally as well.  Steve and Clyde were feeling a little quicker than I.  But it was good to get out and run with them or I would never get the leg turnover back.  Pushed the lat 1 1/2 ish back up to the store and I finished with another 1 1/2 ish harder on my own.  Then a little cool down.  Was supposed to be 10 with 3 at Threshold.  Although they didn't turn out to be threshold, they were quicker than I have run since Boston and it was just about as hard as I could go at the time - 6:19 (uphill), 6:11 (with a short interruption to grab my keys, clock kept ticking), 6:15 (mostly uphill grade).  So, something to start from.  (Glycerin 310.9)

Total Distance
4.00

PM - Needed to get up this morning and run since I was headed up north to track meets.  Didn't.  Mad about it later, so when we finally got back to the hotel and after the team meeting, I went down and did 2 on the treadmill, but it was killing me.  So I went out into Provo from the hotel over the RR tracks and back for another 2.  Wasn't dressed for it, very cool, but it was good.  I wanted to go more, but I needed to sleep. (Glycerin 314.9)

Total Distance
0.00

I was tempted to put "no time to run today" being up for the track meet.  But the truth is - Didn't make time to run today when I could have got up early and went.  I must conquer this weak mental attitude about morning runs.

Comments
From Mike K on Mon, May 07, 2007 at 18:28:20

How did your teams do?

From Sasha Pachev on Mon, May 07, 2007 at 19:03:45

You can also do the "always on the run" thing during the meet. Jog any time you have an extra moment.

Total Distance
15.55

AM - 5 Washington Loop with 11th extension. Right knee had been hurting a lot yesterday, and there was still some pain in it today. But it felt a little better as I ran. I think it may have been a combination of the short run on the bad treadmill Friday and being cramped into a school bus all day Friday and Saturday. (Glycerin 319.9)

afternoon (these afternoon runs are more like early evening, after practice, but whatever...) - 6.55 miles. 3.3 2450 warm-up.  Then 10x200's with 200 recovery jog in between.  Goals were 1st to finish workout, 2nd to hit 32's.  1st 31. 2-6 32's.  They were getting a little tougher as I hit 5 and 6, but I convinced myself I had it as I was on the downhill slide.  7-9 slipped to 33.  I was a little bummed, but kept pushing it.  They legs were getting a little jello-y.  10th 36.  Ahhh.  Slipped pretty bad.  Actually started the time and jogged for another few steps and then snapped out of my haze and realized I was running 200 and tried to go, but the legs just weren't there.  But at least I did it.  The feeling to lose it was there again, but not until the very end.  Really cramped up when I went home, but got some Endurox in me a some Ultima a little later and felt better.  (Cumulus 263.15)

evening - 4 on treadmill at 7:30 no incline.  Decided to go get a few more miles when wife was at the gym and kids in bed.  Loosened up the hips and knee a little.  Glad I did it. (Cumulus 267.15)


Comments
From Bill on Tue, May 08, 2007 at 10:24:06

Are you still planning on kanab?

From Dave Holt on Tue, May 08, 2007 at 10:30:59

I think I will do CottonFest here in Washington instead. The course isn't as quick, but the inlaws will be in town for a few things and I need to be around.

Total Distance
15.00

AM - 15 in the fields.  Got up extra early to get the run in today.  Hadn't done this run for a long time.  I enjoyed today, however, as the dark hid the long straight stretches of road in the fields.  The hardest part of the run is the big climb the last two miles back up home, just when your the most tired from the rest of the run.  But I held it together pretty good and averaged 7:23 throughout the run - with no miles faster than 7:10 I was pretty consistent throughout.  I will probably hit another 15 next week before I decide to bump up to 18's and more for the summer. (Glycerin 334.9 - feet hurting a little from shoes today, they may be on the way out, which is what I want, but not until mile 400+)

Comments
From The Beast on Tue, May 08, 2007 at 10:54:12

First off I don't even care about the Jazz/Warriors series. The Spurs only won because Nash had a freakin broken nose and couldn't play in the most crucial part of the game.Baron Davis is still the man, he has a wicked sweet beard that isn't all patchy like Ricky Williams was. Anyways..... I wish you were running the Kanab 10k because I am.

From Dustin on Tue, May 08, 2007 at 13:45:57

Dave, thanks for the post, it helps to have other people check up on you and evalutate where you are at. I think you are right, I need to boost my mileage and it is something I have been aware of. I just need to get in the routine of getting up earlier and getting in those morning miles. I really think my schedule this summer should allow for a great summer of training. I might send you a copy of the workouts I have planned so far, and I could get some more ideas. Any thoughts on the Ogden Marathon, I've paid for the full marathon, but was thinking of changing to the half, not wanting to be disappointed if I don't run well in the full. I think I could go the entire distance, just a little worried about how I'll feel and recover after?

From Bill on Tue, May 08, 2007 at 16:05:27

OK Dave see you Saturday.

From Mik'L on Wed, May 09, 2007 at 10:47:54

Hey- we need to wet down the long jump pit before the meet today. Can you send someone out to do it last period or get Cappy on it or something? It is way too dry and the girls will lose a couple inches if we leave it as is. Thanks!

Total Distance
12.75

late morning - 6.55 into Washington and around Green Springs from PVHS. We are testing out the block schedule today and right now I am not complaining because I was able to go for a run during my prep. Paid for the 10K Saturday and then tried to get a general idea of the course. I don't have a map of it, but I know the general idea and have a very good knowledge of the area (since I have been running in the area since I could tie my own shoes). The .85 mile seems to be a gradual incline up under the freeway. Then a big drop for 200 meters into Mill Creek then gradual hills up into Green Springs until about mile 2.7 or so. From here the race has a general downhill feel as it loops back around - except the steep climb back out of Mill Creek. I am pretty sure this is the basic idea of the course for the Cotton Days 10K down here in Washington. It won't be the fastest course, but I really know the area and I hope that can counter some of the hills. (Glycerin 341.45)

early afternoon - 6.2 Foremaster from PVHS.  A second nice easy run today.  One thing I really am trying to do is keep my easy runs easy.  Today's averages of 7:20 and 7:12 were both just right.  Now off to region track! (Glycerin 347.65)

Comments
From Dustin Ence on Wed, May 09, 2007 at 13:32:17

I was waiting for your response, but it is all good. Actually, your post really got me thinking yesterday, it is nice sometimes to have other people motivate you and tell you that you have more potential than you think you have. I really do have some big training plans for the summer. What time is the race Saturday morning? We have our father and sons campout and my boys are really wanting to go, but I also wouldn't mind running a 10K. I think you would really like the block schedule. I'll be going back to a traditional next year out at Hurricane Intermediate. I've heard I'll be starting at 7:35 and getting out around 1:55, that should give me plenty of time to train in the afternoon, just need to get up around 5:30 or 6 each more and doing some easy miles.

From Dave Holt on Wed, May 09, 2007 at 14:09:24

Man, that will be great schedule for easy few miles in the morning and big workouts in the afternoon. Race is at 7:00, so maybe a little early to get back from camping (depending on where your at), but it might be a good race for 1/2 prep.

From Superfly on Wed, May 09, 2007 at 14:12:20

Good miles so far this week. Good luck at region, and at the race this weekend.

From Bill on Wed, May 09, 2007 at 15:49:44

I can tell your thinking about running this 10 k around 33-34 right! your going to win! Just be gentle when you run over my back!

From Dave Holt on Wed, May 09, 2007 at 17:14:55

Depending on the course - low 33, 32. Please! (in a begging tone to the ghosts of running).

From Ruthie on Wed, May 09, 2007 at 22:45:20

Hey, if Shaye trips in both her hurdles and the Lundgrens both get violently sick tonight, we might have a chance at the region title! Well...we'll for sure get our 2nd place goal! I'm going for 40 points all the way!!!

From Jeff on Thu, May 10, 2007 at 01:27:29

coach I am sorry if I am ever one of those jerks at track, I don't mean to be.

I am going to try and make up some of the end of level test tomorrow (thur.) at lunch if that's ok.

Total Distance
10.00

AM - 10 on treadmill.  Started with and easy 1/2 at 8:34, then took incline to 1% and speed to 7:30 for a half.  Then I took speed to 6:58 for miles 1-5.  Today was planned to be a Tempo day, but last week showed me that the leg turnover isn't quite there yet for a harder sustained tempo.  So I took the pace to near marathon 6:00 for 3 miles and felt a little struggle doing so.  But not the type that says you shouldn't be running this, more the type that says I'm glad your running this because it is going to help you break back to where you need to be.  Then back to 6:58 for the remaining 2.  (Cumulus 277.15)

Those of you in So. Utah should head over to PVHS for the region 9 track meet this afternoon.  Fellow blogger Ruth won the 1600 in 5:16 (by 17 seconds!) and anchored the winning medley relay with a 800 split of 2:20.  She is awesome.  The guys races have had great depth and competition as well. 

Comments
From Bill on Thu, May 10, 2007 at 11:53:33

good luck with region Coach.

From Ruthie on Fri, May 11, 2007 at 01:41:55

Thanks! ;)

From Mik'L on Fri, May 11, 2007 at 12:07:05

Hey- if you see Kev at all today, have him check out the Spectrum online and look at the photo gallery of Region. The last picture is a sweet one of him winning the 100.

The write-up was pretty good too. I'm glad they mentioned Green the way they did. They were so pumped last night, it was fun. Judd was going off about how exciting and fun the 4x4 was. Hopefully that will carry in to state and next year!

From Mik'L on Fri, May 11, 2007 at 12:07:33

Hey- if you see Kev at all today, have him check out the Spectrum online and look at the photo gallery of Region. The last picture is a sweet one of him winning the 100.

The write-up was pretty good too. I'm glad they mentioned Green the way they did. They were so pumped last night, it was fun. Judd was going off about how exciting and fun the 4x4 was. Hopefully that will carry in to state and next year!

Total Distance
5.00

early afternoon - 5 on Washington Parkway.  Easy run with no watch.  Want to do well in the 10K tomorrow, so I backed it down a bit today.  Tried to loosen up a little on the downhill by getting the turnover going. (Cumulus 282.15)

Race: Cotton Days 10K (6.2 Miles) 00:34:59, Place overall: 1, Place in age division: 1
Total Distance
10.00

morning - warmed up with 2 miles down to the race start and around a little. Some of the usual suspects were there: Steve Olsen, Bill, and some other local yocals. Figured I should get off the shnide and win this one. Looked at the course and noticed it was about what I had planned it to be earlier in the week. Also realized it would not be fast.

Mile 1 - 5:39 (I think splits are right, my watch isn't in front of me right now - I'll come back and fix them). Some fellow I have never seen took off and Steve and I followed. A little incline back up toward the underpass.

2 - 5:25 Thought this other kid would peel off to the 5K. He didn't, but I had tested him on the inclines and knew he had nothing on hills. And as this course was basically one long uphill for the first half, I knew I had him.

3 - 5:48 Up Green Springs. Tried to keep pushing and pull away from the 2nd place guy. Steve was back there somewhere too, and I knew I needed to distance myself from him. It worked. I was able to pull away.

4 - 5:48 At 3.5 We finally started to even out before a downhill section. What a long climb for a race! I really pushed the down to extend everything. Hit the second half of the mile in about 5:10 pace.

5 - 5:47 Used the downhill to keep me going quick. Then the climb up the firestation hill. I run this a lot and know how tough it is, so I just kept pushing. My pace slowed to 7:30 or slower here for about .2 miles uphill. Then it took another .2 or so to get the legs back. But I knew the end was coming so I dug through it as best as possible.

6 - 5:25 Once I got my legs back, I really hit a good mile here for the end of a 10K. A little downhill and I tried to use it to dig in.

.2 - at 5:25 pace still.

Came in as the winner and broke my long streak of 10 or so races (besides marathons) where I have finished 2nd. Time was okay for the course. I am going to analyze it. Most people noted how there times were 2-3 minutes slower than usual. I think I had the legs today to really hit a good time on a faster course with good competition. But it was fun to run and win a hometown race and support "Dog Town"!

Went back and found my bro. and finished with him and then ran home after the long delay to the awards ceremony. Decent medal, golf and a cart at Coral Canyon (that will be an interesting experience!), and a night stay at a local hotel. Decent awards. (7.5 miles in Ohana) (2.5 in old Landreths)

I just used the course tool analyzer and got results back that the course had a very similar pace feel to the Striders 10K where the top runners hit mid 34's.  So that just confirms my thought that I could have got down into the 32's today (with a strong run and a fast course).

I am looking for a 10K (any race actually) in the Salt Lake/Provo/Ogden area on the 16th of June or the 23rd of June.  I will be up there either dropping or picking up my wife from the airport.  Someone let me know if there is anything.

Comments
From Brent on Sat, May 12, 2007 at 17:54:54

Congrads on the win. Where is Cotton Days?

From Jeff on Sat, May 12, 2007 at 19:11:11

Nice Win Coach!!

From Decker on Sat, May 12, 2007 at 19:47:43

Nice job D-Holt! You should have come and run Kanab though,the winner got $200. You would have run if you came. I think they should have given out $200 for the overall teenage winner too.

From Decker on Sat, May 12, 2007 at 19:49:44

Shoot! I meant to say you would have won the race if you came.

From Superfly on Sat, May 12, 2007 at 23:09:34

You'll have to take me along on the Coral thing. Good job on the win. The course sounds kind of hard.

From James on Sun, May 13, 2007 at 01:07:59

Nice job on the win! I know that 2nd place feeling too, I get stuck there alot, including today.

From Ruth on Sun, May 13, 2007 at 14:47:25

Hey, way to go get it yesterday! That firestation hill was killer, I almost died...and I ran the wrong way yet again. Don't tell Mr. Palmer, he'll never let me live down 'Wrong-Way-Ruth.' You are so freaking fast, it is almost depressing.

From Steve Hooper on Mon, May 14, 2007 at 13:32:40

Good job on the race this weekend and braking your 2nd place streak!

From Dustin on Mon, May 14, 2007 at 13:40:08

Good Job on the race Dave and the golf package, I'm jealous. Do you have many kids going to state?

Total Distance
12.00

afternoon - 7 12x200 track workout. 3.3 warmup on 2450 run. Then 12x200's. Pretty hot so I broke it up into 3 sets of 4 with 200 recovery jog between and a short break with a quick drink between sets to keep temp down. 1-4 32. 5 and 6 time slipped up to 33. I was mad at letting the time slip so I told myself I had to get the next two in 31's or I would do an extra. So I did 7 and 8 in 31. Legs felt pretty good at this point and I was feeling happy about hitting the times. Then hit 9 and 10 at 31 again and 11 and 12 at 32. Cooled down with .75 big loop. Probably needed more of a cool down, but it was past time to be home with the family. (Cumulus 284.15)

evening - 5 on Washington Parkway. Went back out once I got kids to bed and enjoyed a nice evening with an easy run. Legs were a bit tired. (Landreth 137.95)

Comments
From Cody on Mon, May 14, 2007 at 09:50:21

Dave,

There is a race June 16th and is part of the LDR Circuit, but it is only a 5K.

http://www.usatf.org/assoc/ut/ldr.htm

From christi on Mon, May 14, 2007 at 10:01:39

Check out www.saltlakerunningco.com and click on purple events calendar in upper left hand corner. Looks like there are a couple 5 & 10ks on the 16th. On the 23rd I only saw 5ks. Have fun picking a race!

From Dave Holt on Mon, May 14, 2007 at 12:47:49

Thanks guys.

From Sasha Pachev on Mon, May 14, 2007 at 13:17:42

I would strongly recommend the circuit race. You will have good competition, and the course will be certified. If you really feel like a tempo afterwards, run the course one more time after you finish.

From Mike K on Tue, May 15, 2007 at 16:23:39

One of the best non-road races of the year is June 23rd, the Wahsatch Steeplechase. It is two and a half hours of fun up a mountain and down the other side. It is timed with the race director's kitchen clock.

http://www.wahsatchsteeplechase.com

Check out the pictures of the crags.

Total Distance
11.50

AM - up extra early for a 15.  Started with 8 out and back into Middleton.  Then I had to get back and finish on the treadmill, so my wife could go to gym.  That was my downfall.  Tried to make the transition quick, but my legs were already a little spent.  First mile (9) at 6:58, but I was tired - legs and mind.  So I backed it off just a little 7:03 and went the next few until I just gave up. I was disappointed with myself for stopping, but at the time I felt I wasn't doing myself any good. (Glycerin 359.15)

Comments
From Bill on Wed, May 16, 2007 at 11:10:00

Dave,

your doing great. Are you going to run Bryce? or utah summer games?

From Dave Holt on Wed, May 16, 2007 at 13:39:10

Both! 10K PR at USG and PR at Bryce!

From James on Wed, May 16, 2007 at 15:51:29

Dave,

Summer games is where I got my 10k PR.

I have a double major in Health and Biology and a minor in Physical Education. I like Health the best out of the three. As for where I want to teach, I am not sure? I guess at first it will be where ever I can get a job. I really like Logan area, and towns about this size, but I know that it is sometimes hard to get on here. I want to stick around Utah though. What do you teach?

From James on Wed, May 16, 2007 at 15:53:49

I have to take the Praxis 2 on June 9th and I student teach this fall. Then I will be done, at least for now.

From James on Wed, May 16, 2007 at 17:47:39

Are you the head coach there? I assisted Phil Olsen at Provo for a couple of years while I was at UVSC. That is when I decided that I wanted to coach as well as teach. I loved it!

Total Distance
12.15

afternoon - 6.15 on Foremaster. Very easy and relaxed 6 on Foremaster run.  No watch.  Just tried to run it easy (which was not hard to do) and with decent form (which was hard to do as I feel pretty wiped out).  (Landreth 144.10)

evening - 6 on Treadmill at 7:30 with 1% incline.  Kept is very easy this evening.  I did feel a bit better than earlier, however. (Cumulus 290.15)


 

Total Distance
14.25

AM - 10.25 on Wendy's run. Up just a little later than usual and ran into Clyde at the end. Had to run him out of DogTown before any serious harm came on him! Overall a pretty disgusting run. One of those that you don't even want to write about because it was crap. But I guess I need to anyway - if for nothing else than a comparison for later. Supposed to be a Tempo run for 4 miles. But with the lack of Tempo speed the last two times I did this, I broke it up into 2 sets of 2 mile tempo's with a mile recovery in between. Unfortunately, my body forgot about the tempo part and I only hit 6:22 and then 6:40 (even with a hill this is gross). The next set wasn't much better at 6:2something and 6:38. Legs tired, body tired, sleepy, stressed, emotionally drained, and pretty much just running like a wimp lately. I've got state track this weekend and that will force me to back down for a couple days, so I will use it to let myself recover a little. (Glycerin 369.4)

PM - 4 more in Nephi. Got back to the hotel in Nephi - yeah, we had to stay in Nephi for the 1st night of state track! - and I felt like a little run. So went down the main drag for 2 miles and back. (Cumulus 294.15)

Comments
From BILL on Thu, May 17, 2007 at 11:24:24

Dave,

just enjoy the run. you may even want to consider a small break. It is easy to get burned out.

Total Distance
15.00

PM - 15 in Provo.  After 1st day of state, I had a few minutes and went for a run around Provo.  From East Bay up to BYU and around.  Then up by the Temple and through some  hilly neighborhoods to basically the mouth of the canyon.  Then down Timpview Drive and worked my way back to BYU and onto University back to the hotel.  Not positive about the mileage, but measured by time.  Felt very good and really enjoyed the run.  Legs felt good.  Pace was pretty decent throughout.  I enjoy running in new places. (Cumulus 309.15)

Comments
From Superfly on Mon, May 21, 2007 at 19:46:32

Good job getting out up there. Hope your going to do those 400's with Steve and I on Tues night.

Total Distance
0.00

Wasn't able to get out.  Needed to sleep, so didn't get up early and then when we got back from Provo, it was too late to function.

Goals for next week:  Had some decent mileage for missing Saturday.  Could have been mid 70's without much effort if I had run Saturday.  So... goal for mileage is to get over 80.  Long run of 18 on Monday and get a very good 400 workout on Tuesday.  Set myself up for a great summer of running in this last week of school.

 

Comments
From Jeff Fre on Tue, May 22, 2007 at 00:09:44

The middle school poster is up and ready to inspire!!!!! xc forever

Total Distance
18.35

PM - 18 on Quail Creek run. Started out with a new hydration pack that has a fancy little mister on it. I thought this would be a great idea (even with it being so hot out at 7:30). But it did cool off a bit when a small storm blew in. Problem with that was, it blew against me for the last 7 miles. Ran the route backwards for a little change. Liked it, but not better than the normal direction. First rattlesnake of the new year. I about stepped on him on the short dirt section of the road up on top past the industrial park. Truthfully about gave me a heart-attack. I was just totally zoned out and thinking about cross-country and getting recruits and then I stepped about 1 inch away from him and realizing that it was a snake, I high/quick stepped out and just about died. Run went well with ave. between 7 and 7:30 (depending on terrain) for the first 14, but then I had a real struggle for the last four. Didn't enjoy that much. (Glycerin 387.75)

Comments
From ashman on Tue, May 22, 2007 at 10:54:18

Thanks, Dave there is a reason why you are a coach. I would love to have a position like yours. As far as the snake goes, it keeps things interesting. I used to run into coyotes occasionally in Oregon and Washington when I lived there.

From Dustin on Tue, May 22, 2007 at 10:58:04

My biggest fear running here in St. George is the snake! I guess it shouldn't concern me so much, but I'm just not a fan. Only a few more days left. What are your plans for the summer?

From Lybi on Tue, May 22, 2007 at 12:41:10

AAAAAAAAAHHHH!!! A rattlesnake! Double yikes. Be careful out there. You get the wildlife award today.

From Mik'L on Tue, May 22, 2007 at 14:42:03

I think YOU are insane! lol

From Superfly on Tue, May 22, 2007 at 20:38:54

Snakes are bad. I saw a fat coyote about a mile above my house last Friday. He thought about eating me but passed and said that he was looking for Wild Bull, says the bull owes him some cash.

Total Distance
14.55

Whatever is causing my computer to "Time Out" is really driving me nuts. I write this informative entry and then it is gone, and I never want to write it all out again. But I put something for later reference:

noon - 12 x 400's. 3.3. warm up on 2450 and legs felt dog-tired. A post long-run hangover. did some agilities and active stretching to try and get something in my legs. With no response, I decided to break the 4's into 3 sets of 4 to try and finish the workout (something I didn't do last time I did 4's). Took a 200 jog (1+ min) between reps and a little longer between sets. 1:17, 1:17, 1:18, 1:19 (felt slow and sluggish); 1:17, 1:18, 1:19, 1:22 (wind was breezy, but it was dominating me); 1:16, 1:17, 1:16, 1:16 (not sure how I got quicker times - just the idea of finishing up I guess - because I was really struggling on form). .75 Big Loop cool down. Overall didn't feel that great about the workout. These times really should all be at or just below 1:15. Next week I will have a better one. (Cumulus 317.7)

evening - 6 on MillCreek Trail.  Recovery run to the extreme.  Still a bit cooler out, so I hoped to  see a tortoise and not a snake, but nothing.  Took it very easy and tried to allow my legs to recover, but it didn't seem to do any good.  (Landreth 150.1)

Here is the problem with today.  I misread my workouts and today should have been an easy day with speed tomorrow.  Well, I guess that just makes the end of the week a little easier and hopefully I can get my legs back.


Total Distance
14.60

AM - 7 on GreenSprings run. Started off slow and easy. Then got even slower and easier. I didn't want to run as slow as I did, but my legs decided it needed to be done. (Glycerin 394.75)

noon - 7.6 on DinoTracks. A great run that takes you right next to some dinosaur tracks up in the desert (thus the name). Took it easy, and couldn't have taken it hard if I wanted to. Extended the run because of developement up in the desert between my house and the freeway.  (Cumulus 325.3)

Comments
From Logan on Wed, May 23, 2007 at 12:53:30

I am glad to be part of the blog. I am doing the Cache Valley Biatholon with my father in law. I am running the 5 mile race and then he will finish with the 16.5 bike race. My next race looks to be Freedom Run 15K on July 4th up in Hyrum. I am also going to do the Bryce Canyon Half again this year. Great job at Boston! You are THE MAN!

From Wildbull on Wed, May 23, 2007 at 13:13:45

Dave,

Great job on the 400 repeats. just a few more days of school. Then you will be running like a wild man!

From Dave Holt on Wed, May 23, 2007 at 13:15:08

I can't wait!

From Dustin Ence on Wed, May 23, 2007 at 14:38:55

Good workout yesterday. What time are you thinking of doing track workouts in the summer? I know Clyde and Steve have been going on Tuesday evenings. That time doesn't really work with my schedule. Steve suggested Tuesday mornings around 6:00 am, and then doing some type of tempo run on Thursday evenings. I'm just curious what your schedule is like?

Total Distance
12.00

AM - 6 on treadmill with no incline. First half at 7:30 and took it up to 6:40. Both runs today are supposed to be 6 milers at 6:40 pace. I was worried that I wouldn't be anywhere near that after struggling earlier in the week - even during my easy runs. But once I got going it was no big deal. The quicker pace actually helped my hip flexors a lot. They have been a little sore - I think because of the slower pace and bad form from being tired. But moving along made me get my knees up and drive my legs a little more. Happy about the run. (Landreth 156.1)

afternoon - 6 on dogpound from home.  1/2 mile warm up and then 5 1/2 at 6:40 pace.  Hit all the miles at or below pace (downhill sections) except the 2nd uphill mile that slipped to 6:47 (but effort was still strong).  I was pleased with today's runs.  Both were good workouts, but not too hard.  (Glycerin 400.75)


Comments
From Superfly on Thu, May 24, 2007 at 12:18:35

If you are going to be in town on Monday we should get together that early and do some kind of fun longer type run. Just a heads up. I'll talk to Steve and see if he can make it.

From Dave Holt on Thu, May 24, 2007 at 12:42:17

Good idea - Let's do it.

From Mik'L on Thu, May 24, 2007 at 16:08:17

Hey- thanks for a good season. I know there were some downers, but overall it ended up being a good season and I'm excited for next year. You've done a great job with the girls! Let's hope we don't have any more "incidents" before next season (losing ACLs, off-road vehicle accidents, etc.)!

From Ruth on Thu, May 24, 2007 at 17:01:24

Mik'L and I told Green to get a blog, so maybe we'll be seeing her on here soon! (Even though she can't run for 4 months, she can still keep us updated...)

From ashman on Thu, May 24, 2007 at 21:03:34

Dave, Im SO not what you expected? Im curious and just curious, what were you expecting? Tell me I will not be offended I promise.

Total Distance
10.00

morning - 5 on Washington Loop reverse.  Didn't have to get up early today!  Run was at an easy pace.  Then on Millcreek hill ran 10 x 10sec. hills.  A good short hill workout that doesn't wipe me out for days.  (Cumulus 330.3)

afternoon - 5 on Washington Parkway.  Easy pace and just tried not to burn up as heat is on its way back. (Landreth  161.1)

Comments
From Bill on Fri, May 25, 2007 at 13:29:43

Hey Dave, School is out for the Summer! Dave, Do you think i am doing the right thing by laying off a few weeks with this planters thing. It has really affected the way I run. My running mechanics are way off and I feel i was not improving but getting worse. I feel it is better to lay off now rather then let this injury drag on all summer. any suggestions?

From ashman on Fri, May 25, 2007 at 14:50:01

From ashman on Fri, May 25, 2007 at 14:51:19

I was only kidding also. Have a good summer now that school is out.

From tolmanator on Sun, May 27, 2007 at 00:42:14

hey coach i saw you running this morning by stone cliff i was the car that was speedin like crazy

Total Distance
12.90

AM - With Steve and Steve from Summit to top of Warner Valley Hill and back.  Pace was comfortable and enjoyable on the way out.  A beautiful morning for a run.  On way back, let mileage on watch hit a mile marker and then pushed at 5:37, 5:31, and 5:41 for next three miles.  Felt very good.  Pace was hard but not grueling, and I was very happy to be able to pick it up for the first time in many weeks.  (Glycerin 413.65)

Hit my goals this week for miles and workouts (speed, distance, Threshold).  A good week after a rough start.  Ready and excited for the coming week...

Goals for next week: Mielage mid 80's (86).  16 400's as I continue on this little 10K push I am on with building to half marathon prep.  Solid Long run and enjoy life with a mix of running and fun times with my kids.

Total Distance
20.00

AM (maybe morning by the time we got running) - 10 and 10 with Clyde on Utah Hill. Went up to top of Utah Hill and did a few water drops on the way down toward Littlefield. Did not get as far down toward Littlefield as I thought (this was going to be a long...long...uphill). Started off and ran up up and up for 2000 feet in the first 9.4 miles (9.4 instead of 10 because I don't know how to read a car odometer apparently). Pace was actually pretty steady and good. Ranged between 8 min and 7:20 miles. It was pretty grueling, however, with literally NO downhill or even flat spots for this section. Then once we peaked out, we stopped for just a minute and started down. I wanted my times to be at 5:50 and I basically hit between 5:35 and 5:47 for this section. The last mile I had to battle it a bit as I was pretty wiped and the .4 just put it over the top. Then We jogged a bit more down and back to even it out. I was pleased with the workout. The purpose of a 10 and 10 is to get a long run where you are forcing your body and legs to work hard at the end of a long run - in a way simulating the stress of a marathon. I am doing a few more of these workouts to hopefully overcome some of my struggles at the end of the marathon. (Cumulus 350.3)

Total Distance
14.00

AM - easy 7 on GreenSprings.  Nice run with little to no effects from yesterday's long run.  In fact had to remind myself to slow down a bit and take it easy.  Ran in a new pair of Cumulus.  (Cumulus-orange 7)

afternoon - 7 on DinoTracks Trail.  Getting a bit hot for an afternoon run outside, but did it anyway.  Took it easy and felt a little more wiped than this morning.  Not because of running though; mostly from a long, hard day of landscaping.  (Landreth 163.1) 

Total Distance
15.70

AM - 16 x 400's. Great track workout today. Steve and Dustin were there and that really helped. Warmed up with 2.7 on PVMS run from PVHS. Then stretched it a little and got into it. I wanted to hit around 1:17 and extend from 12 (last week) to 16.

1:16, 1:17, 1:14, 1:14 (feeling good, but worried that the 1:14 was a bit quick. Although I didn't break today's 4's into sets, I put the idea into my head that they were sets of 4 to get through it instead of the large number of 16). 1:15,1:14,1:16,1:14 (Still feeling strong). 1:13, 1:14, 1:14, 1:14 (Getting toward the end and the times are getting better, so I am getting a little more stoked). 1:13, 1:15, 1:14, 1:09 (Dustin helped me finish the last 2 and I was very grateful). Cooled down with 2 mile DI run. Pretty excited that the workout went so well. I think I could have hit everything right at 1:14 with a little more confidence. Next Week! (Cumulus 361)

PM - 5 on Washington Parkway.  Easy recovery run.  (Glycerin 405.75)

Comments
From Fre on Wed, May 30, 2007 at 13:35:47

Thanks for the encouragement. Great job on the 4's!

From Ruthie on Wed, May 30, 2007 at 14:16:16

Those are lots of fast 400s, great job...you're amazing! By the way, what road races are coming up? I'd like to race a few.

From Wildbull on Wed, May 30, 2007 at 15:46:03

good job Holt. Really consistant.

From Steve Hooper on Wed, May 30, 2007 at 19:20:02

Good job on those 400's this morning. You're looking pretty strong. I was impressed with how many you hit under 14.

From Decker on Thu, May 31, 2007 at 01:38:05

Nice running Coach! I am way excited for the oncoming season, with the Wasatch back happening our team will have great synergy.

From Decker on Thu, May 31, 2007 at 01:38:42

I'm doing the Summer Games 10k and 5k.

From steve on Thu, May 31, 2007 at 09:09:47

Have been lacking some energy since the marathon and the body is telling me to go easy until its time again. Looks like your on the upswing again.

From Logan on Thu, May 31, 2007 at 17:49:11

Excellent work on the speed workout. I need to probably be doing some more myself. Thanks for the encouragement.

From Fre on Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 00:03:59

Coach what kind of running should my sister be doing the next week before xc?

From tolmanator on Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 02:32:37

hey nice job coach you are crazy. but thanks for the advice i just got on with the forestry service so we have pt every morning. i did the pack test so that was a bit of a work out. haha and ya no prob in not hitting you i was just in a rush that day cause i was late for something

Total Distance
14.75

AM - 6.25 on Dogpound.  .5 warmup, then goal of 6:40 for 6. 6:16,6:34,6:17,6:30,6:56,6:44 (pace for .75).  Felt very tired and was surprised that times were decent.  I guess I only missed it on the 2nd uphill mile.  But the fatigue of the 400's was there.  I'll not do the 2nd run like this this evening.  (Cumulus 367.25)

evening - 8.5 Club run around Sunbrook, Green Valley area.  Legs still spent and had a hard time staying any where near Steve and Clyde.  Ave. was 7:25 (Landreth 171.6)

Total Distance
9.00

AM - 6 Mall Run.  Very easy.  Tired and happy it is an easy day.  Need to get my legs back a little for tomorrow's run.  Club runs always pick up the pace at some point and I also need to hit a few Tempo miles. (Cumulus - orange 13)

PM - 3 on DogTown run around Washington.  Was able to cut back miles a little this evening and still be on pace for the week.  Felt fat and unhappy after eating dinner and ice-cream and whatever else I could shove into my fat face. (Glycerin 408.75) 

Total Distance
13.00

AM - 13 on Club run from Brentwood out to Sand Hollow and around.  Then I cut off from everyone else and made and extra lap around the lake before meeting my family for some fun in the sun.  Pace was very easy and relaxed at first and I was happy because I was still tired.  Then the guys started to pick it up and I couldn't go with them, but was still hitting 6:40's for a mile or two.  After breaking off, and crossing the dam, I decided I need to try and get 3 miles of Tempo in.  With the gravel (same course as Dam to Dam) and my fatigue, I figured 5:55 would be about as strong as possible.  First 6:10, second 6:04, third 5:58.  Felt okay about it.  I'm never happy when one workout (400's) has such a negative affect on others (the rest of the week), but I would still like one more strong week of 400's to really feel strong for the Summer Games.  Then I'll transition.  (Cumulus orange - 26)

Met goals for the week in all ways: mileage, track workout, and long run.  I feel good about my running right now and am ready to race something.

Goals for next week.  I would like to hit another good long run and keep working to the point where I feel confident about my distance running.  One more good workout of 400's and keep a positive attitude.  I am having fun running now and I like it. 

Total Distance
21.10

AM - 21.1 on Green Valley run.  Ran top to bottom for first time in a while and felt good about it.  Shortened it by cutting up diagonal rather than going over the top and also hitting the skate park instead of going up Main to 700.  Ran was good.  Ave. was 7:21 and that was with slowly getting into it and with no major push.  Took until mile 7 to get a mile under 7:30 and then I just kept a good steady pace both downhill and back uphill (Dogpound).  Pleased with the run and felt it was a very good way to start the week. (Cumulus orange 34.1)

Comments
From Superfly on Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 18:19:06

Good run. Thanks for the well wishing. Yeah it was Damon from down here. In fact he's a 2:31 marathoner but a little out of shape right now. If I run with those guys on Tues or Wed's I'll call you and see if you want to join in.

From Dustin Ence on Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 18:38:28

Good way to start off the week!

From Steve Hooper on Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 19:05:16

Sweet long run! Are you planning on tapering a little as we move toward the Summer Games?

From Jeff on Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 01:13:19

My sister will be at EFY the first week of XC but I will get her going some more this week.

From Wildbull on Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 13:13:40

Holy Batman! where did you get your Cumulus?

From Ruthie on Sat, Jun 09, 2007 at 19:59:44

I'm way excited to try on new unis, maybe next week since we're starting XC up Green and I could try them out or something... then we can actually talk, too. XC 4-Eva.

Total Distance
15.05

AM - 8.3 with Clyde and James up the Middleton/Powerline/GreenSprings Trail with a bit onthe golf course.  Run was good and it was nice to meet James.  (Cumulus 375.55)

afternoon - 7.75 on Millcreek Trail in the middle of a sandstorm.  I came back red from the dirt and eyes just running.  (Landreth 179.35)

 

Total Distance
15.70

AM - 16 x400's with Steve, Dustin, James, and Damon Cox.  Warmed up 2.7 to PVMS.  Then hit the 400's.  I thought about 20, but the wind was very breezy and made the effort of 16 seem like 20 so it was enough.  1:14, 1:14, 1:13, 1:15 (felt good, but a little trouble getting into it), 1:12, 1:14, 1:13, 1:15 (effort felt much harder this week than last), 1:15, 1:14, 1:15, 1:13 (getting near the end and still didn't really feel smooth), 1:12, 1:14, 1:13, 1:09 (last set was the best of all).  200 recovery jog between 4's.  2 mile cool down and had a good chat catching up with Damon. (Cumulus orange 44.8)

PM - 5  on Washington Parkway.  Felt about the same as last week.  Tired but not wiped.  Hopefully I will recover a little better than last week.  (Glycerin 413.75)

Total Distance
14.55

AM - 7 on Dogpound with 11th both ways. 6:40 workout. .5 warmup.  6:20, 39, 37, 53, 37, 21 (pace for .5).  Felt a little better than last week.  Tried to back it down early as to keep something for the end and it helped a little.  (Cumulus red; new pair of Cumulus 9's; 7)

PM - 7.55 Club run from Store on Red Hills trail and up around store.  Easy first few miles, then Steve and I pushed a little around diagonal. Mile 4 6:47, 22, 25, 18.  Had more juice than last week for sure. (Cumulus 383.1) 

Total Distance
12.00

AM - 8 on Mall run.  Easy pace.  (Landreth 185.55)

afternoon - 4 WarmSprings with 10x10 sec hills up the warmsprings neighborhood hill. (Glycerin 417.75)

 

Total Distance
15.60

AM - with Steve and Steve up the Icehouse Trail and onto Broken Mesa.  I've always wanted to run up this beastly hill and now I never have to do it again.  To make the coming down easier, I decided to roll down the lava field with a twisted ankle.  This technique, however, was not that effective.  The run wasn't that great for running: cuts and bruises all over, pretty twisted ankle, no spot to pick up pace for a few miles like I wanted, almost stepped on another rattlesnake; but I did enjoy it for the beauty of running: very pretty area, great views, good company.  Ankle swelled up a bit and then settled down into my foot.  Stayed pretty sore the rest of the day. (Cumulus orange 60.4)
 

Total Distance
20.00

AM - 15 Washington Fields.  Felt pretty good except my knees.  Decided to change my miles a little to be more fresh for this week's 10K.  So I went 15 and 5 later.  Ankle felt pretty good.  Still very swollen, but no pain.  Just some fatigue and knee pains.  Ave was right around 7 for almost all miles.  (Cumulus red 22)

afternoon - 5 Washington Parkway.  Nice easy run.  (Cumulus 388.1)

 

Total Distance
11.75

AM - 7 GreenSprings.  Felt tired and didn't have any energy for a pick up at all.  Ankle feeling much better, just green and purple now.  But knees still a little hammered.  (Landreth 192.55)

morning - 4.75 on Washington Parkway from Wash. Elem.  Started cross-country practice, so that throws a new twist into how and where I am getting my miles.  Sometimes I will run with them, sometimes not.  (Landreth 197.3) 

Comments
From Mik'L on Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 00:21:02

Hey! Good job at Summer Games. That is an awesome time. You will have to read about my trek experience, I posted it on the blog and you will get a kick out of who my "children" were.

Total Distance
13.00

morning - 6.25 on Dogpound with 11th.  Had a decent run.  Felt a little better each day this week.  On Monday I counted my strides and found I hit 166-168 for 7 min pace.  Today I counted at 6:30 pace and hit 168-170. Similar numbers, but I would like to improve them a little bit by the marathon.  (Cumulus red 28.25)

PM - 6.75 on Grapevine Springs.  An old favorite run of mine that I haven't done because of the destroying of the trails and dessert up there, but I went up and did it and had a great run.  (Landreth 204.05)

Comments
From superfly on Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 16:29:22

Since your on here all the time now I better wish you good luck and good job in the 10k on Friday. You'll be reading this after you've won. I'm guessing 31:51 winning time.

From Wildbull on Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 16:40:15

I think you will have agreat race. I am glad your recovering from the icebox run.

From Logan on Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 17:54:09

Good luck this Friday. You are looking good to win it. Hopefully the ankle gets feeling better.

From James on Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 18:08:54

Dave,

It was good to meet and run with you last week. I was going to post a comment last week but you must have been too busy eating crap on your runs to log your miles. I hope you are okay!

I thought about jaunting back down to the Summer Games this weekend and give a run for your money in the 10K, but that 94 mile week is way too intimidating to me. Good luck in your race, I'm sure you will do what you want to.

Total Distance
11.00

morning - 4 (3 w/ team) on Sandberg's Pond.  Took it easy and enjoyed it. (Glycerin 421.35)

evening - 7 Club run on Sunbrook.  Again took it easy and got ready for tomorrow's race.  Achilles was hurting quite a bit today.  Iced and stretched and used the Strassburg for the last few days to get it feeling better.  Hopefully it calms down.  Ankle is hurting more today than earlier in the week as well.  (Cumulus red 35.25)

Race: Utah Summer Games 10K (6.2 Miles) 00:31:00, Place overall: 2, Place in age division: 1
Total Distance
13.50

AM - warmup up of 2.1 miles (Cumulus) ran up the last section of the course - came in handy later.

race: started up Cedar Canyon - knew this would be a fast course and I could go for a PR, but I had some doubts as to how fast I could actually run it - knowing a big PR was possible but much quicker than I had ever run.  Got to the starting line with the club (minus Clyde) and things looked good until I saw Jow Wilson (past St. George Marathon champ, 3rd to Paul and Steve at Ogden last month).  So I decided to run as far as I could with him and try to do well.

1 - 4:43 started off at a blistering pace.  But this is where I wanted to be.  I was really amazed at how relaxed Joe was.  This was going to be fun.

2 - 4:49 It seems I am working way to hard to hit these miles.  Even though this was fast, I felt like I was struggling too early in the race (Looking back, I think I could have run an even better time; first with confindence, second because I actually wasn't feeling that great - achilles was still acting up, ankle hurting some, and sloshy legs).

3 - 4:56 Joe and I pull away after the last surge from some high school kids (they didn't ever fully go away however and ran great times as they kept pushing me from behind).

4 - 5:07 Joe pulls away from me at the end of this mile and the doubts begin to creep in.

5 - 5:30 Where I really lost time on this mile was the first part when Joe was pulling away.  He had really encouraged me to keep up and once I drifted he took off.  Because of this I really fell back and started to relax.  But I just kept Paul's new blog title in my head and got back on track (Thanks Mr. Groening!) I actually couldn't keep it out of my head, it was kind of funny.

6 - 5:25 I kept Joe at the same lead through this mile and tried to finish strong.

.2 - My watch recorded the race as just a little short (but others had it very close) and I ran .13 in 29 seconds (near 4:00 pace)!  I saw the clock ticking to 31 and I was in as full out sprint mode as I have ever been as I pushed to keep it under.  My watch read 30:58 as I crossed, but I guess I had better take the official time. (ohana)

Anyway... Pretty stoked.  I was hoping for a time near that and got it.  Fastest time as an old guy by 2:40 and best ever by 1:30 (even with a fast course, I'll take it).  The best thing was running with Joe Wilson.  I was like a little kid in awe.  Here is this great runner and I am hanging with him (near him).  Very cool.

Cool down of 1.2 miles (Cumulus 391.4)

PM - got out for a 4 mile stretcher on Warm Springs (Glycerin 425.35)

Comments
From Superfly on Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 21:13:57

Crazy race! Way to bust out and run a great time. I was sad on the trek that I had missed the race. But when I got home and saw the results I was glad I wasn't there to take a good butt kicking.

Have a good weeka and once again good job.

From The Beast on Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 00:12:54

Awesome run coach! Thanks for all of your advice.

From James on Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 02:20:08

Great race! Even if in was a bit short you still averaged 5:00 pace. Way to hang on to Joe for that long too. What was his time? Oh, and by the way, Steve Ashbaker aced Joe out for 2nd at Ogden.

From jtshad on Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 09:59:15

Great race, what a pace and kick at the finish. Your training is really paying off.

From Chad on Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 11:25:05

Great race, great report. You were cruising! Congrats on a super finish.

From Logan on Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 20:49:14

Excellent race! I am very impressed with your time. Keep up all of the hard work.

From Dave Holt on Tue, Jun 19, 2007 at 16:02:48

Thanks for pointing that out James. In fact, I realized that after I wrote it and never got back to fix it. Sorry Steve, not trying to rip you off your excellent race!

Total Distance
13.00

AM - Club run from Dammeron down to store.  Took off well with Steve O. with about a mile warmup and then picked up the pace from 6:20 down to 5:30 for the rest of the run.  Ave. for whole run 6:11.  Felt pretty good considering yesterday's race.  A little sore on the glutes, but achilles felt much better.  Positive end to the week.  (Cumulus orange 73.4)

Very happy with this week.  Backed off intensity, but still hit decent mileage.  Ran good in the race and got ready for another strong week.

Next week's goals: Get mileage back up to mid 90's.  Try to dig through the week and a half of treadmill running I will have to do with my wife gone with a positive attitude while avoiding injury.

Comments
From Dustin Ence on Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 20:43:03

Good week of training and racing. You guys took off on Saturday. It took me about 3 miles to get moving, then the rest of the run went really good, considering the tough race on Friday. I'm just glad this past week is over. I had too many problems, I'm looking forward to a better week this week. Are you doing a track workout on Wednesday morning?

From Jeff on Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 12:18:37

Great race Friday!

From Wildbull on Tue, Jun 19, 2007 at 16:06:54

yes Dave,

I enjoyed the brief talk to the start Saturday. Then you beamed right off my radar! Way to rock!

Total Distance
19.85

AM - 10&10 first 10 to Junction at easy pace - saw a gila monster and it made me jump out of my skin (thought it was a snake).  When I realized what it was I stopped for a look.  I have only seen 1 live gila ever, unfortunately something had happened to this one and it was dead.  Stopped back home for a quick drink and gu and a break and then took off on Wendy's for the harder pace of the run.  Ran into Clyde early on and he decided to head my way.  Kept a pretty decent pace for those 8 miles as we chatted 6:20 give or take.  Then the last 2 I was spent and needed to be done, so I didn't even get the round 20 when we got back to my house.  I felt a little dehydrated and, of course, fatigued after the hard runs lately.  (Cumulus orange 94.25)

Comments
From Wildbull on Tue, Jun 19, 2007 at 16:31:06

whats the deal! Afer only Running 19.85 your fatigued? You really need to work on that endurance!

Total Distance
16.65

morning - 8 on Millcreek Trail (2 w/team - they headed back and I continued on).  Good recovery run.  Still a lot of sand up at the top part of the trail.  (Landreth 212.05)

afternoon - 8.65 on Dimple Dell Trails in Sandy.  I really enjoy running on these trails even though it was easy and slow, but it makes me think of cross-country (my favorite type of running).  Ended with 10x100 strides barefoot on the grass at Granite Park with a very slight downhill - kind of fun.  (Cumulus orange 102.9)

Comments
From Ruthio on Tue, Jun 19, 2007 at 18:39:00

Kelsee, Green and I all tried on the new unis and we like them lots. Also, I ran the 5k in one and it was pretty nice, except the side tag pokes lots, so when we get them we should cut them out. I dropped them off at your house because I didn't want to carry them around another week.

From Aaron on Tue, Jun 19, 2007 at 21:36:30

How are the Landreth IIIs treating you?

Total Distance
15.20

morning - 10.2 out and back on Wasatch. Pretty slow and tired feeling run, but a beautiful area. (Cumulus red 45.45)

afternoon - 5 Sego Lily run in Sandy. Last run not on the treadmill for awhile. (Cumulus orange107.9)

Comments
From Wildbull on Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 13:33:14

Good job Dave. have fun running in cooler temps

From James on Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 13:41:14

I need to talk to you ASAP, call me @ (435)753-6274.

From Green on Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 17:29:11

I did like the jerseys a lot better than our old ones. They fit really good and I say we get them.

From James on Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 18:06:43

Dave,

That was what I wanted to talk to you about. We could really use you! The wfe out of town sounds like a good opportunity for the kids to to spend a weekend with their Grandparents in SLC. No, I understand, if you change your mind let us know right away. Do you happen to know anyone who we could snag at the last minute?

From Logan on Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 14:51:26

My team's name for the WBR is Soar Feet. We start at noon on Friday. I am the first runner so it will be nice and hot!

Total Distance
16.00

morning - 8 on treadmill @ 1%.  (Cumulus 399.4)

PM - 8 treadmill 1%.  Both runs were pretty and I felt like I was straining just to stay on the treadmill at only a speed of 7:30.  This made me not look forward to another week of this.  (220.05) 

Total Distance
15.00

AM - 8 treadmill 1%.  Decided I have to do these treadmill runs when the girls are asleep because they make it very difficult to run without interruption. (Cumulus red 53.45)

evening - 7 treadmill 1%.  Well I started reading Chi Running as well as Advanced Marathoning.  Taking some good things and leaving out others from both.  From Chi the best thing I got was the improvement in form that I have realized I have needed to make in a long time.  My problem is that I really sit back on my feet; thus my legs get spent as well as problematic leg and foot issues like PF, Achilles issues, and shin issues.  So what I am trying to do is improve my lean a bit and get up in front of my feet.  I really noticed a change between my two runs today because of this.  And I am actually looking forward to the next few runs to work on these technical aspects.  Easy pace both runs. (Cumulus 406.4)

Total Distance
14.00

AM - 14 treadmill 1%. Tried continuing to work on my form. Felt a bit more tired than yesterday evening's run - maybe from working a few different muscles? (cumulus red 67.45)

Finished the week hitting the mileage goal which was 96.  There might have been a slight stretch of burnout for a day or two near the end of this week, but this in bound to happen.  

Goals for next week:  big goal is to make running on the treadmill as fun as possible and shake off the burnout.  Hit a good long run.  Bring back a little more speed into my runs.  From Advanced Marathoning I have decided I need to work on two major things:  First, number of strides.  I had been working on this a little for a couple weeks - I would really like to improve this, as I know that I struggle with a slower stride rate (This week I would like to be able to hit 170 without struggle).  Second, I want to work on improving the quality of my runs by making the second half better and making sure I really use Tempo runs to my advantage.


Total Distance
25.00

late Sunday night/EARLY Monday morning - 21 treadmill.  I really didn't want to get up at 4:00 to do this run, and I actually had a nap Sunday and was still awake at 10:00.  So I decided to get ready and get started on the run (after all, I would be finishing on Monday, so it wasn't a big deal, right?!).  Although the treadmill is not anywhere optimum for any running let alone a long run, I did like that hydration wouldn't be an issue - also, I had DVR'ed the US Track and Field Championships and watching them helped the time fly.  Some very cool races.  3000 steeple, 5000, 800, 1500: all great races.  Anyway... to the run. Warmed up for a minute and then took it from 7:30 to 6:58 in .1 MPH increments for miles 0-6.  Miles 7-13 were at 6:40.  Then miles 14-21 were another .1 increase each mile - ending at 6:15 (I think).  Through in some hills here and there to mix it up and really worked on form/lean and stride rate.  (Cumulus orange 128.9)

afternoon - 4 treadmill 1%.  Since I ran at such a weird time, I decided to go for something short this afternoon.  Once again really focused on stride rate.  (Gycerin 429.35)

 

Total Distance
14.00

AM - 8 treadmill 1%. Start through 4 miles at 7:30 to 7:03. Then last 4 at 6:40. Pace felt okay and didn't really have any tiredness or fatigue from the long run. Got a metronome from my old man and tried working on stride rate with it. Started it at 85 (one leg) and I was just a little off and could quite keep it. So I put it at 84 and stuck it the rest of the run with only a little effort occasionally to get back on. (Landreth 228.05)

evening - 6 treadmill 1%. 7:30 pace pretty much the whole run.  Very uninspiring. (Cumulus red 73.45)

 

Comments
From Logan on Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 17:05:22

I ran in to Ruth, Ally and another girl from Pine View. It looked like they were having fun. Good luck with the treadmill running while the wife is out of town!

From Ruthie on Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 23:27:06

I do not envy your treadmill running... Amanda says that you can send the girls over to her house in the mornings or whenever so you can actually get out. Good luck on not dying of boredom. Or getting killed by your crazy children.

From Mik'L on Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 23:59:59

It may not be too fun on the treadmill but I'm sure Ally is having an amazing time in NYC! (Does that make it better or worse? I'm not sure.) I hope you are still enjoying the "Summer of Dave!"

From J-Free on Wed, Jun 27, 2007 at 16:56:06

Thanks for the comment. I wont beable to run next week because I will be at EFY (I don't know how I could get runs in). Then the next week I will be at scout camp but I will beable to run, I have done everything in scouts in the last decade so I think I can do what ever I want now.

Total Distance
17.00

AM - 12 on treadmill 1%. 6x1/2 miles at 2:30.  Felt a lot better than yesterday.  hit 84 stride count on 1/2's. (Cumulus orange 140.9)  

afternoon - 5 treadmill 1%. started at 7:30 and went up .1 mph each mile.  Felt good with no ill-effects from 1/2's this morning. (Glycerin 434.35)


Total Distance
16.00

AM - 10 treadmill 1%.  1 mile warm-up and then 4 miles at 6:40 followed by 5 miles at 6:00.  Was using a metronome to help hit pace.  I was just a bit off for the first 7 miles of the run and then on the final 3 I finally hit stride and was right on with it the whole time. (Landreth 238.05)

PM - 6 treadmill 1%. .5 warm-up.  Then 2.5 at 7:30 and 3 at 6:40.  (Cumulus 412.4) 

Total Distance
13.00

AM - 8 treadmill.  Totally asleep for the whole run.  I took the incline off to try and get going.  I kept it easy to warm-up.  But no matter what I did, I just couldn't get rolling so I keep it slow the whole time.  (Landreth 246.05)

evening - Wife is finally home!  Hooray for that and hooray for no more required treadmill running!  5 on Washington Parkway. Felt a little different being out on the road again. (Cumulus 417.4) 

Total Distance
17.00

AM - 17 from Veyo down to store.  Took a little to get going.  I felt a little tired (not sluggish or anything, just sleepy) and neither Steve or I wanted to roll too hard.  Then we matched up with Steve O. which was very good because he wanted to move it a little.  First 5 were all near or above 7:00.  Then we picked it up and the Steves pushed ahead of me as I ran 6:20's for a few.  Then at the volcano I moved it up to Threshold pace and hit mile 9 in 5:15, 10 in 5:20, 11 in 5:24, 12 (up Winchester Hill - mile 18 of StGM) at 5:42.  I was very pleased with hitting these times.  Relaxed a little for the next mile back to 6:40.  Then ended by pushing a little through the Twist at just under 6:00.  Took stride count three times during the run and hit 85 each time.  6:20 ave. for whole run.  (Cumulus red 90.45)

Week went well.  I was a little burned at a few points, but I was able to keep it limited.  Then ending on a great run like today made me very pleased.  I told my wife, I want the marathon here now!  Hit my mileage goal for the week and was able to make some progress on my stride count.

Goals for next week:  Go over 100 again and KEEP IT HEALTHY.  Continue working on stride count and get it up another notch, 172 (86). 

Total Distance
21.10

AM - 21.1 Green Valley.  7:16 ave for whole run.  Not bad, but it took some time to get moving.  First 14 seemed to be more work than they should have.  The last 7, however, were much better.  I could feel that my form was a bit off with my feet out in front a bit too much.  Stride count was 84 taken 2 times. (Cumulus orange 162)

Total Distance
17.50

AM - 11.2 (4 with team). Went down on dogpound and took Mosquito Trail then around Sandberg's Pond.  Came back and ran Washington Loop with team. (Landreth 257.25)

PM - 6.3 on Washington Parkway.  Finished with 8x100 meter grass striders.  Feels good to get the shoes off and run barefoot a little.  (Cumulus 423.7) 

Total Distance
17.50

morning - 17.5 from Enterprise Res. to Veyo on Goldstrike road (dirt road).  Good fun club run, but we weren't really prepared for it.  I was already a bit tired and then didn't have enough fluids.  Also it got a bit hot.  Another struggle was stopping and starting wasn't helping me flow at all.  By the last section, I was done.  I really liked the area of the run.  And the best part was the cool-down in the stream at the end.  The rest of the day I drank like a fish.  (Cumulus orange 179.5)

Total Distance
20.80

morning - 11.6 (2.5 with team) Grapevine/Junction.  Took team out near Grapevine Springs to measure a run and then they headed back.  Continued on up hill and into Coral Canyon and then basically ran the 2nd half of the Junction run.  Tried to run Grapevine Hill hard as to move into some hill workouts soon.  Still felt dehydrated and took it easier.  (Cumulus red 102.05)  

PM - 9.2 Club run from store and around Entrada (Landreth 266.45)

Comments
From James on Fri, Jul 06, 2007 at 21:57:59

You and Clyde must be racing for mileage too. Looks like your training is strong. Do you ever run with your cross country kids?

From Logan on Sat, Jul 07, 2007 at 14:46:57

I am glad you agree with the teaching situation. Bill is still an alright guy though. See you in two weeks at Bryce. It will be fun running with you guys again.

From The Beast on Sat, Jul 07, 2007 at 18:15:25

Nice work coach! I was just wondering when we get our schedules? We better be doing the BYU Invitational so I can watch my bro run after our team does.

Total Distance
13.10

morning - 8 (2 w/ team) up Millcreek Trail.  Ran into Clyde a little up the trail and he took it easy with me for a little. (Cumulus 431.7)

afternoon - 5.1 treadmill 1%. Started easy and then took it to about 7 min pace for most of the run. (Glycerin 439.45)

Total Distance
16.00

AM - 16 from Clyde's up Skyline, down Main, onto River Trail and back up Green Springs into Middleton.  Took it easy and just ran how we felt.  Some miles near the end under 7, but nothing spectacular. (Sumulus orange 195.5)

New record weekly mileage!  Some of the miles weren't that sharp due to high miles for two straight weeks and the struggles from Weds.' run, but I am still pleased to have made it through.

Goals for next week: back down the miles a bit (90) and get a little sharper for the 1/2 in two weeks.  Get a few 800's in on Weds. and have a good 20 miler on Monday.  Later in the week we are headed up to Idaho for a reunion, so I want to enjoy whatever terrain we get into up there.

Comments
From Logan on Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 19:32:34

Awesome week of running. Keep it up! Like the picture with the kids.

From RJ on Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 21:38:51

Ya the update on your picture was a much needed one. Your last one was... ...well, As Monty would say,"It didn't portray your inner beauty."

From Green on Wed, Jul 11, 2007 at 17:25:40

That is a much better picture... I am now willing to admit you're my coach... :) By the way, did you ever figure out where my State medals ended up? As vain as it is, I really want them...

From Dave Holt on Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 19:53:14

Thanks for the comments. I think Logan was being nice... My runners...? Well I think you guys look ugly when you run too!

Green we'll get your medals. Don't worry about it.

Total Distance
20.00

AM - 20 (10 & 10) Junction with an easy pace for the first 10, ave. at 7:21.  Then Wendy's for the 2nd 10.  Didn't take the short break between because I was already up at 4 running and practice was bearing down on me.  So I just took a few water bottles and dropped and stopped for just a second at 10 to Gu.  The 2nd 10 weren't up to where they needed to be, but not too far off.  Ave. was 6:40 and that's because I slowed it at 16 and 17 to 6:35's and then 19 was 7:20 and 20 was 6:58.  Last time I did this on the 18th of June ave for 1-10 was 7:27 and 11-20 was 6:35 - so I didn't see any improvement this week.  (Cumulus red 122.05)

Total Distance
15.60

morning - 9.6 (3.5 w/team) on Washington Loop and then into Sandberg's Pond.  Ended with 8x100 barefoot grass striders.  (Cumulus orange 205.1)

afternoon - 6 on treadmill 1%.  1 mile warmup, 3 miles at 7:30, and 2 miles at 7:03.  So nothing too crazy.  (Glycerin 445.45)

 

Total Distance
15.00

morning - 11 (8x800's on track)  The results of this workout pretty much stunk.  Reasons: 1)pretty warm. 2)not mentally into it. 3) Just not running fast - still getting legs back from big weeks. 4)Not having been on the track in about a month, so I hadn't really built up to it.  The last two are the biggest factors for the crappy times.  Warmed up with 2.7 to PVHS from home (2 w/team).  1-2:34 2-2:34 already a bit slower than goal time.  I'm thinking that's okay just bring it down a little at a time (didn't happen) 3-2:36, 4-2:44 really sucked it up here so I got a quick drink and took just a little longer break.  5-2:38, 6-2:45, 7-2:46, 8-2:44.  With the 2 minute recovery and 2.7 back home, the total came to 11.  I think I just bit off a bit more than I could chew on this one.  One positive...At least I did the whole workout (a mental victory if nothing else). (Cumulus red 133.05)

PM - 4 Warm Springs easy recovery run. (Cumulus 435.7)

 

Comments
From bc on Thu, Jul 19, 2007 at 18:04:44

Dave,

How's the XC going this summer. I'm trying to mix things up here at East and want to try starting some new traditions. I was thinking that a dual in the desert would be fun for the kids. Now that your school is moving to 4A it could be a great chance for both schools to meet head to head. I don't know if it would work this year into both our scheduled meets, but it might be worth talking about. From what I understand we can only travel 150 miles without some preapprovals and headaches. Here is where I think it would work. A "Meadow Massocre", It is exactly 300.33 miles from East to Pineview. We meet in the middle in Meadow Utah. Make a course on a dirt road or trail through the sage brush. I'm sure we could find some rough hilly interesting course that would be fun around there. I suggested it to some of my runners and they loved the idea. Let's talk maybe we can make it work. I would rather build a tradition that everyone looks forward to instead of a tri meet with the same three teams from our region over and over on Wednesdays.

Bill Cobler

Total Distance
16.75

AM - 10 treadmill 1%. 2 miles warmup  because I just couldn't get into it.  Then 3 at 6:40.  Finished with 5 at 6:00.  I really didn't feel any flow today.  Metronome was at 85, but I was just off and was hitting 84's.  (Cumulus orange 215.1)

PM - 6.75 in SLC down into Willowcreek.  Felt nice to have a little cooler air.  (Landreth 273.2)

Comments
From widbull on Fri, Jul 13, 2007 at 11:14:49

Have a great weekend Dave. your miles are looking solid.

From j-free on Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 00:07:08

One of the top runners on the blog!

From RJ on Wed, Jul 18, 2007 at 02:58:19

Hey if you ever read this I need help on my form when I get back on Wednesday.

Total Distance
11.10

morning - 7.1 in SLC.  Went up into Granite area and then worked my way back through Dimple Dell.  (Cumulus red 140.15)

evening - 4 in Soda Springs.  Ran at 7000 feet.  2 out and back from lodge with my brother James.  (Cumulus red 144.15) 

Total Distance
12.00

AM - 12 in Soda Springs.  Down from lodge into town and out on some highway.  A good downhill run, but I felt way off - out of alignment from sleeping on the floor I think.  Despite this, pace was comfortable and easy to hit at 6:30-40 for most of the run.  (Landreth 285.2)

Got my 90 for the week, and it was pretty easy.  Started to feel like I was getting my legs back a little by the end of the week.  Hopefully through next week, they will continue to recover and I will have a fast race.

Goals for next week:  Race fast! 

Total Distance
11.50

morning - 11.5 Went up into Green Springs with team (5.5) and then finished up the run around Washington Parkway.  (Cumulus orange 226.6)

 

Total Distance
12.35

morning - 12.35 Ran the Parkway in the morning and then up to the tortoise fence (2 w/ team) and because of last night's rain, I continued up into the desert and ran the Sand Hill.  I loved the run.  The sand was perfectly packed and it was just an absolutely beautiful morning in the desert.  I felt good and pretty quick.  (Cumulus red 156.5)

Total Distance
11.50

AM - 11.5  up into Green Springs and then DogPound (4.5 w/ team).  Felt a little slower and more fatigued today.  I hope the legs are feeling smooth for Saturday.  (Landreth 296.7)

Total Distance
11.15

morning - 4.5 Warm Springs and then 5 x 100 barefoot grass striders (w/ team). (Glycerin 449.95)

PM - 6.65 - Club run from store down through Dixie Downs.  Enjoyed running with Logan again.  (Cumulus red 163.15)

Comments
From bc on Thu, Jul 19, 2007 at 19:07:58

Hey Dave I left a comment on one of your older entries thought it was your most recent. Let's talk.

Bill Cobler

From bc on Thu, Jul 19, 2007 at 19:09:36

Sorry I just saw you saw it. I will call or see you at one of the races

Total Distance
8.00

morning - 8 With team down from Green Springs down to Slickrock Church for 4 miles and then back and forth running with various members of the team and then added a few more miles.  Felt a little tight and tired as well as pretty slow, makes me nervous a little for the race tomorrow.  (Cumulus orange 234.6)

Race: Bryce Canyon 1/2 Marathon (13.1 Miles) 01:10:46, Place overall: 4, Place in age division: 3
Total Distance
16.60

AM - up early for the race after pretty much no sleep last night. Hit an easy 1 mile warm up and then got going. 1-5:38 We (Clyde, Logan, and I) decided to not go out too hard and this mile showed it. I would have liked to be about 15 seconds quicker on each of these 1st two miles, but... Oh and the false - but not really - start was fun for Clyde and I. 2-5:32 Settled in with a pack of 4 and watched Hobbie and Mike Vick pull away. 3-4:47, started to use the downhill. 4-5:03, seems like these miles (4 and 5) were a little quicker when I looked at my watch, but it was a good pace. 5-5:06, 6-5:08, still moving well through the end of the tough downhill. 7-5:18, feeling amazing at this point and saw Mike Vick up ahead and really thought we might sneak up and suprise him, so I moved it up a little and Logan and I left the Durango fellow. 8-5:31 As good as I was feeling, I suddenly felt horrible in the middle of this mile. I think I might have hit glycogen depletion. It was so crazy how quick I lost everything, almost within one step. I was having trouble hydrating - the cups were causing me some issues, and I had forgotten my Gu and bought some Powergel to use instead and it gave me some major sideaches. It cost me for miles 8 and 9. 9-5:48, The Durango guy catches me and I watch Logan just pull away. 10-5:33, I decided I wasn't going to give up on this and decided to pull back away from the Durango guy. 11-5:39, Trying to get back toward Logan but he is picking it up here too. 12-5:51, The little rise up into Cannonville wasted me. 13-5:38, Durango was just behind me and I wasn't going to lose $100 just because I suck.

I had mixed feelings about the race. Happy about winning $200, happy about a 4 minute PR. Disappointed about missing sub 1:10, I really thought I would do it - I even thought I could go 1:08'ish. But overall pleased. And happy that I feel there is still room for improvement.

Cooled down by running back with my bro and finishing with him. (Ohana 87.4)

Total Distance
15.70

morning- 6.05 Well, I am spent.  Way too sore for a 1/2 marathon.  Grapevine with the team (Landreth 302.75)

mid morn- 3 on treadmill (no incline) at an easy pace to loosen up. (Cumulus 438.7)

afternoon - 6.65 DinoTracks.  Thought it would start raining on me, but it held off.  Still tired and sore.  No way I could run the 10K tomorrow.  (Cumulus red 169.8)

Total Distance
10.90

mid morn - Started the day by going to Enterprise to watch my wife run the 5K (her 1st race!  33 min and 3rd in her division!) and a few of my XC kids.  Got home and ran in the overcast and HUMID weather on the Bracken's Loop.  Tortoise Sighting!  I hadn't ever seen a tortoise on this trail before it was very cool.  The trails were great with all the rain last night, and I really enjoyed the run even though I was still sore and slow.  But by the end of the run a lot of my tightness and worked its way out.  We will see tomorrow.  (Cumulus orange 244.5)

Comments
From Superfly on Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 19:06:33

I can't wait to hit the trails with the rain. I'll be looking out for your tortoise. They are fun to see.

From Wildbull on Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 19:26:33

No picture? no other witness. you and clyde are seeing things!

From Mik'L on Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 22:10:38

Tell Ally congrats! That is a good time. I didn't know she was going to run it. She should have done the 5k in Bryce with us. You need to get her to start coming to club with us too. By the way, you need to get me a cross country schedule sometime! :)

Total Distance
14.90

AM - 9.3 on Washington Parkway before practice and then 6xFireStation Hills with the team.  Hills felt good.  I think they loosened me up a little and told my body that it was time to start rebounding and some serious training was coming up.  (Cumulus red 179.1)

evening - 5.6 went out to Bloomington Hills area and ran on the River Trail down to Dixie Center and back up through BH making it a loop.  Finally hit my first sub 7 minute mile since the race.  I was quite pleased.  (Landreth 308.35)

 

Total Distance
14.50

morning - 7 MillCreek Trail (2 w/ team, then split off).  Left heel has been giving me some on and off again pain since the race.  I am pretty sure I have a bone spur (all the signs point to this: the little round bump just off the heel, the history of PF on both feet actually, the extreme pain is sometimes brings) but it is on-again off-again so I am in denial and have been trying to ice, massage, and take care of it as best as possible.  But after the race Saturday, I could barely walk.  During the race, I had no trouble, but the downhill pounding and the lack of cushion on my flats added up to a lot of pain.  And this has set it off for a painful week.  (Glycerin 456.95)

evening - 7.5, 2 before the guys showed up around the store and then a club run up into the desert on the Castle Rock trail.  Slow going up, but hit a few good miles coming down.  (Cumulus red 186.6)
 

Total Distance
13.50

morning - 13.5 Ran out to Riverside Elem in the fields, where we had practice this morning (4.5), then ran a good 4.5 course with my 2nd girl (Ashley) and we talked about her upcoming season, then finished with the 4.5 mile run home.  As it has been all week, it was muggy.  It has been nice to have a little lower temps, but the humidity has been killing me.  I already sweat like a dog. (Cumulus orange 258)

Total Distance
18.65

morning - 18.65 Went up to Leeds and then ran up to Anderson Junct. and back through Leeds and home. At first I had a little trouble getting my mind and body into it. After about 5 miles, however, my body started to cooperate a bit. My mind, however, was back and forth throughout the whole run. Sometimes I was really liking it; others, I just wanted to stop and be done. Nonetheless, I ran very well, considering. Ave for whole run was at 7:03. With pretty much everything after 5 under 7, except one of the hill miles. A good course that I really like (wish the rest of the club could have made it). I really enjoy the section through Leeds. And the downhill training is good, but the run still has three hard hills on it. (Landreth 327)

Good recovery week.  Went through all the phases of recovery, I think.  First I wanted to get out and run a lot, but my body was too beat up to let me.  Then I didn't want to run.  Now, I am feeling a bit more energized both in body and mind at the end of the week.

Goals for next week:  Get back over 100 miles.  Keep the foot feeling good.  Have a strong hill workout and speed workout.  Get back working on stride count.  And MOST IMPORTANT in this middle section of the summer, have some fun and run with a smile! 

Comments
From James on Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 14:26:09

Hey, awesome run last week at Bryce! I wanted to comment on it before, but since you only post once every week or two I never did. You are running very strong this year, keep it up. What is your next race?

From James on Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 14:49:07

I will be at Provo Canyon too. Maybe we can give Sasha a little scare, he often runs away from everyone there!

From Dave Holt on Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 14:51:45

I like the sound of that, but the guy is a machine!

From "D" Ence on Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 15:39:00

Yeah, I guess we should have just went ahead with the run. From reading your blog it sounds like you still ran a lot of the route. I drove out along that frontage road yesterday with some driver's ed kids. I think there is also some options and trails that head off toward the reserve area to the south and east of Leeds.

Good week of training, the soreness in your foot kind of worries me, you might want to see somebody if you think it is a bone spur. After I twisted my ankle really bad a few years ago, I had a few bone fragments and calcium deposits that were floating around and causing tremendous pain, especially when I tried to do any running. I saw an orthopedic surgeon over in St. George and basically had a small surgery to clean everything out, which helped a lot. I had a one bone fragment about the size of a pea, which was causing the most problems.

I went ahead and signed up last night for the Provo Half, so I'm excited to see what kind of time I can run there. Back in 2004 I ran 1:24 something when I wasn't in very good shape, so I'm interested to see how much faster I can run this time around.

From Logan on Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 18:27:16

Great recovery week Dave. I was a little sore Monday and Tuesday but didn't want to push it to much after Bryce. I have to concur about today being the best run of the week. Keep up the great training and hopefully you are all ready for school to start.

Total Distance
26.65

late Sunday PM/early Monday AM - 21.15 on the Green Valley Run (dogpound direction).  Didn't want to get up at 3:30 and do my long run before practice, so I went out late Sunday night.  This run helped me decide I pretty much suck.  First half was good, second half was wretched.  (Cumulus red 208.1)

morning - 5.5 (w/ team) Green Springs.  Took it at a nice easy pace and talked with one of my girls about how to improve her running.  In retrospect, a lot of the things I said could be helpful to me after my bad run last night.  (Cumulus orange 263.5)

Comments
From Superfly on Mon, Jul 30, 2007 at 23:44:57

Freak Nasty!

From Logan on Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 00:29:43

Great start to the week. Keep up the great training.

From Mik'L on Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 12:19:24

That was me honking and waving at you when you left the kids at XC practice :) You are crazy running at weird hours in the middle of the night!

From Steve on Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 18:33:38

Dave - Way to start off the week. We are planning on meeting at the PVHS @ 6 am Wed. for some 800's and Speed.

From Jeff on Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 20:30:07

Wow that is a lot of miles!

From Ally on Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 20:33:56

you pretty much do not suck

From Green on Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 18:02:33

What I like about you as a coach, is you can actually do the stuff you make us do and more. Not like some of my other coaches... Namely the ones responsible for making winter my most dreaded time of the year...

Total Distance
15.10

morning - 10.1 (1.5 w/team) Warm Springs and then I went into Green Springs and down the Millcreek Trail.  Easy pace an not into too much.  (Cumulus orange 273.6)

evening- 5 Parkway.  (Cumulus 443.7) 

Total Distance
14.55

morning - 5.05 Fire Station Hills x 8 (w/team). (Cumulus red 213.15)

evening - 9.5 5x1000's.  Went out to the fields to find the flattest place in So. Ut. to run this workout, 2 miles warmup.  Then went into 1000's - which are .68 miles roughly.  It was pretty tough, and I am not sure if I liked doing the speed workout more or less on the roads than the track.  Cooled down with 2 minutes between and then finished the run home.  1-3:39, an ant that climbed aboard as I dropped my water bit me and it cost me a few seconds when I stopped to kill the sucker.  2-3:44, notice that the distance between .5 and .68 is tough (slight uphill on this one - Chipman's hill). 3-3:39, brought it back down and I felt the best on this one.  4-3:48, starting to get pretty pooped.  5-3:52 didn't have anything left and just tried to gut it out as much as possible.  I think I'll give this one more try and see how it goes.  Overall, not so impressed with myself.  My times should have been better.  But I am glad that I didn't let myself talk me out of the last one.  (Landreth 336.5) 

Comments
From Sasha Pachev on Sat, Aug 04, 2007 at 21:50:18

1000 is 0.62. 0.68 is quite a bit more.

Total Distance
15.55

morning - 5.75 (5 w/team) Parkway.  Ran with Kimzey.  He's a pretty stud freshman.  I think he could develop into a very fine young runner.  (cumulus orange 269.25)

evening - 9.8 Club run out onto Entrada.  Ran three at threshold with Clyde when we got back onto paved trail and extended it down to Sunset then recovered back.  Although I had forgotten to set my watch to automatic splits, every time I looked at my watch it was 5:40 or quicker (mostly quicker).  Felt good to get up and go a little.  (Cumulus red 222.95) 

Total Distance
17.00

morning - 10 out in Bloomington Hills (6 w/ team).  Then extended it out onto river trail and around BH.  Tired and felt dehydrated.  (Cumulus orange 279.25)

PM -7 Grapevine Springs.  Tried out a new ending up Parkway and across newly excavated road.  I like that better than going up Cottonmill Ave.  (Glycerin 463.95) 

Total Distance
15.20

morning - 15.2 Sunrise Valley.  Went on a new run out into Sunrise Valley.  the run would have been great had the dump not smelled so horrid.  It about made me puke.  Didn't go with the club because of family obligations that I couldn't miss today, and those fellows have run me ragged this week and I didn't need those kind of miles.  As it was, I was aiming for 100 and didn't want to get over it.  But because I teach English and History, not Math, I hit over 100.  Oh well... Hopefully I get some legs back this weekend.  (Cumulus red 238.15)

This week had mixed reviews.  Good mileage, but felt a little dragging throughout. 

Goals for next week:  Get some spring back in the legs.  Hit right around 80-85 miles for the week.  No speed this week - Except for a lot of speed on Saturday at the 1/2!  Run a good race, have a lot of fun, enjoy seeing my girls again (by the time we go up for the race and to pick them up from Grandma's I won't have seen the older two for 2 weeks), and give it all I can in the race (which hopefully means sub 1:10).

Comments
From James on Sun, Aug 05, 2007 at 17:55:59

Where are you staying for the Provo 1/2?

From Sasha Pachev on Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 18:47:07

Sub-1:10 on the current Provo River Half is equivalent to about 1:07 in Bryce Canyon. 1:13 would be very good.

From Dave Holt on Wed, Aug 08, 2007 at 16:01:37

So would a 1:10!

From Sasha Pachev on Wed, Aug 08, 2007 at 16:35:44

Dave - it is good to set ambitious goals long term. Short-term, when coming to a race, you should realize that your training/recovery routine has already decided how fast you can run it. What has not been decided is how slow you actually will. Your choice is between running what your current training will give you, or running slower than that if you set a goal that is faster than your true ability and fight really hard to get it. I've been there times and again, it does not work. You act like a superhero early on trying to ignore the signals from your body that you are not as fit as you think, then finally it catches up to you, and you suffer later on running slower than what you could have with a more realistic planning. The funny thing is that the superhero running attempt early on turns off your neurological ability to push, in addition to the psychological aspect of being brought to a realization of the truth at a very bad time, which turns off your mental ability to push. So overall you end up running a slacker race.

On the other hand, when you are fit to run faster than you think, you quickly discover it during the race, pick it up, and naturally end up with a faster time without any kind of a superhero effort.

For this race, unless you think you could run 1:07 in Bryce Canyon that very day, I would forget about 1:10, or your finish time will be significantly slower than 1:13.

Total Distance
20.00

AM - 20 (10&10) Junction for first ten at an easier pace.  Then a 5 minute break and Wendy's loop trying to get as close to 6:00 as possible.  At first it wasn't happening well.  Then I had to do a "bio" break.  Finally, I started to run a little better right toward the end.  11-6:59, 12-6:43, 13-6:42, 14-6:25, 15-6:48, 16-6:49, 17-6:30, 18-6:19, 19-back up the hill to my house 6:50, 20-6:38.  Mixed reviews on the run.  Happy that I didn't let last few miles slip too much, but really didn't hit the goal times I was going for.  A little tired.  And a lot sleepy.  (Landreth 356.5) 

Comments
From Logan on Wed, Aug 08, 2007 at 13:00:39

Nonetheless it was still a great workout Dave!

Total Distance
13.45

morning - 8.45 around FireStation desert. Then I headed back and did 8x100 barefoot grass striders. I really needed the striders. I was slow and slower throughout the run, but the striders kind of got me going again. The feeling of putting my shoes back on and finishing the .5 miles back to my house is such a strange one. (Cumulus red 246.6)

PM - 5 Washington Parkway. Nice run out on the Parkway. Pushed the pace a little coming down the Parkway. (Glycerin 468.95)

Comments
From Ruthie on Wed, Aug 08, 2007 at 16:33:47

Just leave them off! That's what I do... what doesn't kill/maim your feet it makes them stronger! Way to go crazy man.

From 262runner on Wed, Aug 08, 2007 at 17:36:49

The "T" workout refers to threshold training; I refer to it as comfortably hard. It is straight out of Daniels' Running Formula book, the 1st edition. Essentially, each workout is a variation of the same thing--a significant chunk of running at threshold pace, approximately 30 seconds per mile slower than 5K race pace. At altitude, I usually figure about 5:05-5:20 for threshold runs, depending upon conditions (windy, terrain, by myself vs partner, temp, etc). If you're a max vo2 guy, threshold is about 88% vo2 max. Based on your listed PRs and the table that daniels gives in his book, I believe your "T" pace would be about 5:20-5:30. If you want, I can give you some of the specific workouts from Daniels book. If you have his book, I am following marathon training program "A". Best wishes, talk to you soon.

Total Distance
14.45

AM - 7 Green Springs.  Very nice temps this morning.  Trying to get my body on a schedule that will fit with the race.  (Cumulus orange 286.25)

afternoon - 7.45 mall run from PVHS and then Bank run from PVHS with team.  A little hot running right in the afternoon, but at least its not 115.  (Glycerin 476.40)
 

Total Distance
12.00

AM - 7 DogPound with Trail and 11th extensions both ways. Nice morning run. I think the legs are responding well to the shorter mileage this week. Hopefully they will be nice and fresh for Saturday. (Landreth 363.5)

noon -5 Sandberg's Pond.  Sneaked out during lunch and got my 5 in.  No big deal, just warm.  (Cumulus red 251.6)

Comments
From Superfly on Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 12:54:01

Good luck in the race this weekend. I almost want to drive up and watch you guys. We may be up to Cedar tonight to watch the race. Then I'll do my run up there if we come.

From James on Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 13:46:40

Is anyone else from down in Dixie coming up for the 1/2? I'll look for you at the start. Hopefully I can stick with you for a while, but I don't know since you have been running 31:00 10Ks this summer!

From Sasha Pachev on Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 16:18:22

James - you should probably start with Chad and trade leads. Adam Wende might be around to help. Dave - you should go out with me if you are feeling good. I am going to run this at the end of a 115 mile week, so that would make me not want to start out too fast. I do not have a particular goal for time or place other than to get in a hard 13 mile tempo - it is not a circuit race, there is no prize of significance (I keep telling Curt to fix that but he does not listen), and this year Glen did not put the Provo River Half on the list of bonus races. If you are interested, we can trade leads every quarter. James - finding other runners in the crowd will be no problem. There is not much of a crowd in that race by 0.5 mark.

From Logan on Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 16:23:48

Good luck with the race this weekend! You will do well.

From Wildbull on Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 16:51:53

thanks Dave.

Total Distance
9.85

AM-5 out and back to Grapevine Springs.  Nice easy run.  Left Plantar/Spur hurting a bit more the last few days.  Right ach. and left outside ankle that had been hurting earlier in the week have no pain in them.  (Cumulus orange 291.25) 

PM - 4.85 Sego Lily loop in Sandy.  Easy run to shake the legs out.  Things should go well tomorrow.  (Cumulus orange 296.1)

Comments
From Mik'L on Fri, Aug 10, 2007 at 11:40:10

Good luck tomorrow! You'll do great! Please try and post something as soon as possible so Clyde doesn't have to go insane all day waiting to hear how it went!

From wildbull on Fri, Aug 10, 2007 at 13:01:12

congrats on your x country team. They are looking pretty good. looks like you have some good runners. good luck this weekend in provo.

From 262runner on Fri, Aug 10, 2007 at 17:20:09

I just checked half.ebay.com, and they have both of Jack Daniels' books. They're great, and very useful as a high school coach, too. Keep me posted.

Joe

Race: Provo River Trail 1/2 Marathon (13.1 Miles) 01:10:06, Place overall: 3
Total Distance
18.00

warmup of probably about .6 miles. Met up with Sasha and Ted at the start of the race and Sasha talked about sharing the lead for 1/4's. I agreed with a little bit of hesitation. (Although I feel good about running fast, it is still a bit intimidating.) 1-5:02 start off strong and feel good about it all. 2-5:14 sharing the lead is working out well. 3-5:03 I think it was around here or so that we were joined by Mike Dudley and he joins the rotation. 4-5:36 still doing well. 5-5:19 the pace seems very manageable and I am feeling positive. 6-5:07 Take a Gu around here sometime and hit a little drink of water. 7-5:52 The uphill and wind on this mile is pretty tough, but I see why Sasha said he didn't want to be alone here. The group is really helping. 8-5:11 Get back into the groove as we make the turn back down the canyon. 9-5:19 I am feeling a bit tired, but am thinking of how well it is all going and thinking if I can just keep up to take my turn, I won't have a lot left. 10-5:55 I am not really sure why this mile dropped so much, but right at the end of it came my turn and I surged up but couldn't hold anything and Mike and Sasha pull away. Keep positive and stick with it, is all I am thinking. 11-5:21 I recover pretty quick and stick right at the same distance from Sasha. 12-5:24 Try a few little surges to work back to Sasha, but everytime I do, it seems like he just keeps the same distance. It's okay though, because I am not settling in. 13- My watch ended it at 12.98 and the pace here was 5:42. Didn't dare look at my overall on the watch because I didn't want to be disappointed with the time. I just thought keep pushing with all you have and it is what it is. Now as I think about it, if I would have looked, I might have been able to dig out that little bit to go under 1:10.

Finished with a 4.3 cooldown.

Overall, I am very happy. This might be my best run ever. I held it together good throughout. Recovered quickly when I started to lose it. And finished strong. I am really please with what happened today and where it is going to take me. Thanks Sasha and Mike for pulling me along. (Ohana 105.4))

Comments
From Superfly on Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 12:17:37

Great race Dave! I knew you were going to run strong. That is an amazing time for that course. Your right on track for October 6. Have a good weekend.

From Ruthie on Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 12:35:07

Awesome job! Did you win any money!?!? :)

From Maria on Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 12:44:53

Congratulations, Dave! Looks like you ran really strong and had a great race! I don't know specifics of this course, but if it's more or less flat, you might be able to go under 2:30 at St. George, if you keep up the training.

From Mike K on Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 13:10:26

Nice race! Those first few miles are a bit scary fast downhill. It sounds like you had a good working group. I'm sure they are thanking you for helping with the pacing. Sasha's predictor has you running a 2:25:47 for St. George.

From steve hooper on Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 13:15:31

Dave - way to go! It looks like everything in on track - keep it up.

From Jeff on Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 13:25:01

Great race coach!

From Mik'L on Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 13:49:51

Great race! Way to go out and get the time you wanted! Lookin good!

From Paul Petersen on Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 14:01:59

Nice work! You are having a fantastic season!

From Lybi on Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 15:17:24

Yea Holt! Great race report and superb running.

From Brent on Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 15:41:56

Holt, great job, I seen you in the trio with Sasha coming down the big hill as I was going up. Great race.

From Sasha Pachev on Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 16:26:05

Mike - I need to fix my predictor. It is tuned for the shorter version of this course. Curt has now fixed the shortness and it has become probably about a minute slower. Dave's performance predicts closer to 2:23 with 70 miles a week training, but he is doing around 100, so the Trials Qualifier is now a very good possibility for him.

Dave the 5:55 mile from 9 to 10 was just plain off. I've been timing our quarters on Hawkes marks. We were at first around 5:25 pace the first 0.5 mile after Nunn's, after that we were slightly under 5:20 pace, then when Mike turned up the heat he was going 5:10. One thing I keep telling everybody - never let unverified mile marks or the GPS control your emotions!

As I told you after the race, this is a major breakthrough. In fact, had I not known the course and seen every turn on it myself, timing the splits on the verified sections, and without James, Chad's, Adam's, Bill's, and Carol's times to establish a baseline, I would be very tempted to call this course short just looking at our times alone.

Ruth - this race has no money. I hope Curt will fix it some day. But Dave's time today definitely deserved it.

From Logan on Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 16:52:54

Great race Dave. Keep everything going until St. George. Nice work today.

From wildBull on Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 17:53:27

Davetastic! you rock. Great race. you would of broke 1:10 if you would of shaved your face! :)

From ArmyRunner on Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 18:01:32

Great race Dave. It was nice to meet you today and see you run so well. My Garmin 305 measured 13.15 today and all my splits were pretty accurate with no lost coverage at all so I think the course is accurate. You are well on your way to a possible trials qualifier if you can keep up the high mileage for another 6 weeks!

From dave holt on Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 18:23:54

Thanks everyone! Bill the Fly'n Finn Tribute Beard is what is actually doing the magic! No way it's going anywhere now!

From James on Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 19:18:41

Dave tahnks for hanging around and running with me after the race. Oh wait, I never even saw you after the race!

I was very impressed with your race today! Sasha was saying that it was a breakthrough race for you, and I agree. If you would have ran like that at Bryce, wow! Sorry you didn't break 1:10 today, but you keep running like that, get on a faster course, and you will destroy 1:10.

From Chad on Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 20:47:36

Great job, Dave. You were so strong when I saw you on the turnaround. Wish I could have seen you at the start.

From Chris Rogers on Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 23:13:26

Dave,

Unbelievable race! Your hard work is paying off, and should continue to do so.

From Cody on Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 23:17:11

Wow Dave, what can I say more?

From Ruthie on Sun, Aug 12, 2007 at 22:45:25

Yes way we are going to Vegas! But we are leaving after practice Monday and most likely will be back for afternoon practice on Tuesday. And what do you mean, IF I run? More like WHEN!!

From jtshad on Mon, Aug 13, 2007 at 12:11:07

Great race, you are looking to be in top shape for STGM.

Total Distance
15.85

AM - 10 on Junction. Feel so much better than after Bryce. I think with a day or two of just running and not worrying about pace, I will be able to get back to training. Didn't time the run today, but it was not much slower pace than usual based upon clock time when I left and got back. A good positive attitude to start the week off with. (cumulus red 261.6)

afternoon - 5.85 PVHS to PVMS and around the fields searching for a x-country course - no luck really.  Blasted hot!  (glycerin 482.25) 

Comments
From Superfly on Mon, Aug 13, 2007 at 10:44:03

Good to hear your feeling good. No post-race crap is always nice. Enjoy the next couple days before the kids come back. I can't believe that summer is over...The plus is it's starting to get cooler!

From wildbull on Mon, Aug 13, 2007 at 11:54:50

106 degrees is not cooler! Way to get in the miles Dave.

From Dave Holt on Mon, Aug 13, 2007 at 12:38:21

That's one of the things that is so hard about starting school so early in the year. I think, "school's starting so it must be getting cooler." No! I'm and idiot.

From Ally on Mon, Aug 13, 2007 at 22:17:05

Hey Derrik e-mailed me and said "if you can, get me coaches email adress? i miss that old long haired hippy." so if you can e-mail that to me (myfriendally@gmail.com) and i will forward it to derrik or just comment it to me or whatever!

Total Distance
16.00

AM - 8 on Treadmill at 1%. Drago was an intimidating site today as I have not had to use him much all summer (except when Al was in NY). Added to the dread of the treadmill was my youngest deciding that it was okay to be up at 5 and with Mom gone to the gym that meant I was supposed to do something. So she came and laid on the floor next to me for a few minutes. That ended and she started to get into everything and I just needed to be done - not quite ready for 10 with Drago yet, but I guess I better get there quick. So I just ended it at 8. (cumulus orange 299.25)

afternoon - 8 on River Run.  Not as bad as yesterday's 109, but 105 and 8 miles don't mix well.  Got pretty hot and dipped my shirt and head into the river just before I got back onto the road for the last 1 1/2 miles.  I'm a little worried about my kids starting hard afternoon practices because it seems hotter than last year.  (Landreth 371.5)

Feel like I will pick it up tomorrow with some hills and then tempo on Thursday and some speed Friday with a long run Saturday some time.

Comments
From wildbull on Tue, Aug 14, 2007 at 10:59:15

Drago? = treadmill? Great job on the miles so far this week. have you found that you have to adjust alot after running that far on the treadmill then going back on the road.

From ArmyRunner on Tue, Aug 14, 2007 at 12:38:46

Dave,

I would love to run St. George this year if possible. I have a work conflict with TOU and St George would also give me more time to get in shape. If you know anyone that has an entry they would like to sell or any other way of getting a late entry any help is appreciated. Thanks!

From Dave Holt on Tue, Aug 14, 2007 at 13:18:35

Yes Bill. He constantly tries to break me.

From Logan on Tue, Aug 14, 2007 at 14:09:46

Keep up the great work. Like you said, we are ready to rock and roll for St. George.

From Dave Holt on Tue, Aug 14, 2007 at 14:37:15

To answer the 2nd part of your ? Bill, it was a little bit of an adjustment after I had run 100 miles in a week all on the treadmill. But just 1 or 2 runs in a row don't really throw me much.

From Ruth on Tue, Aug 14, 2007 at 16:14:40

I put in the course tool an accurate version of the CV XC course, earlier I was trying to explain to you how we DON'T go around the whole baseball field, but you can see it now. The elev. stuff still is broken, but Sasha's trying to fix it, so cross your fingers!

Total Distance
14.55

AM - 9.15 Green Springs and 10xFireStations Hills. I am so tired I may not make it through the day. I really didn't have to get up crazy early a whole lot this summer, so these 4:45'ers may destroy me. I was asleep on my hills and they weren't that great. (Cumulus orange 308.4)

afternoon - 5.4 Mall run from PVHS reverse.  Went up a new paved trail between the mall and Foremaster, a nice trail but it just ends - so it is kind of pointless.  Felt a little fatigued/dehydrated from yesterday afternoon's run.  I've been trying to get on top of it all day. (Cumulus 449.1) 

Comments
From Jon on Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 09:57:05

Peak mileage time of the year with the real early wake up call is killer. We must be nuts for willingly waking up before 5 am.

From Wildbull on Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 10:20:02

first day of school! Wake up teacher!

From Superfly on Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 10:40:21

Good workout Dave. Hang in there. You'll get use to the alarm clock.

From Mik'L on Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 11:27:31

Happy first day of school! It's crazy you are already starting back up again. Here's to hoping you don't have Goold in one of your classes! ;)

From Superfly on Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 17:47:38

I ran that trail one day and I was like "hey this is a nice little trail"... then blank. I had to go hiking to get back over to the road.

From Ruth on Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 23:48:51

I keep putting the State XC course in - when I put it in, it tells me it's 3.1 miles, then when I go to analyze it, it tells me it's 3.9 miles and goes all crazy. I don't know what's up with it.

From Jon on Thu, Aug 16, 2007 at 10:24:18

Short notice, but do you have interest in running the Hood to Coast next weekend? I have a friend looking for a 30+ male and female for his team.

Total Distance
17.70

afternoon - 6.2 Foremaster.  Went out on another hot one.  Body still acting pretty drained.  (Landreth 377.7)

PM - 11.5 club run from store to Ivins and back.  At first I was really feeling tired, fatigued, and drained, so I worried about how I was going to do.  But luckily we kept it at a nice pace for the first 5 or so.  Then Clyde got us going.  I'll have to come back and put in my exact times, but we hit 4 or so good miles.  Even that took me a little while to get into, then it flowed pretty good.  But by mile 9 I was ready to be done.  So I just backed it off and took it easy in.  (Cumulus red 273.1) 

Total Distance
15.20

AM - 9 on Arctic Circle x 3. Right back up at it this morning. Run, Sleep, Run. That's the formula I guess. Hit Arctic Circle with three different groups of kids this morning. For the most part, they all ditched me and I spent most of the time hitting just under 8:00 pace which is the exact reason I didn't do a hard workout this morning. Although I didn't have one planned, earlier in the week, I thought I might try one. But the ol' body is a little spent. (Cumulus orange 317.4)

PM - 6.2 DinoTracks.  A great evening for running.  The temps were cooler with a little overcast, and the wind was just breezy enough to move out the humidity but not hold you back.  Nice run for running's sake.  (Cumulus 455.3)


Comments
From Logan on Fri, Aug 17, 2007 at 10:20:43

Your runs lately have been great as well. You had an awesome race last weekend. The kids will be back soon.

From Superfly on Fri, Aug 17, 2007 at 11:23:42

I've got close to 400 a few times but never gone over the edge. But you've been real close with the 397 or whatever it was. Next summer will work just fine.

From Logan on Fri, Aug 17, 2007 at 13:34:25

We start on Wednesday.

From James on Fri, Aug 17, 2007 at 18:19:56

I had a plantar wart right on the bottom of my right forefoot. I have been putting some stuff on it so it would go away. The other night I picked the a big chunk out of it on accident. It was bleeding like crazy and has hurt ever since.

You are really running awesome this year, good luck with the transition back into school, and wish me the same. Why in the world do you start school so darn early, do you get more days off or what?

From ryan on Sun, Aug 19, 2007 at 18:19:44

hey dave. your running awesome. it is good to see success come with those 100 mile weeks. the next race that i'm signed up for is SGMarathon but it not really a race for me i just try to hold it together one last time before my winter hybernation. i may run the new half at gunlock but i don't know. i'm kind of burned out.

Total Distance
15.00

PM- 15 Fields Little Valley run.  Decided to get some much needed sleep this morning before getting up for the x-country race and did the run this evening.  Had planned on hitting some Tempo type of stuff in the run.  Initially however, I thought I might go long today, but decided that 15 with some quality is better than 20'ish of crap.  So... Started off with 3 into the fields of warmup and then decided to hit 6:00 for the middle 9.  Usually I don't just plan my run on a whim like this, but I was a little all over this week and wanted to end it with something worthwhile'ish.  Once again, so... I didn't quite hit 6:00, but was at 6:10 pretty much the whole 9.  Then brought it back in.  I did lose some time on one mile when I stopped to let a skunk pass.  It was dark and I barely saw him before I ran right on top of him.  Overall, happy with a decent, but not great, run to end the week.

Made it through the week.  That is about what it came to.  School started, x-country in full swing, dehydrated myself one too many times (dropped to 149 before Sat run and came back at 145), and just wasn't feeling positive, so I am happy I made it through the week.

Goals for next week:  Get back into the groove - that is my theme for next week.  Be Positive and have fun at school, running, with my family all that stuff, and let this take to a good Happy Place that will create a good groove for me. 

Comments
From Mike K on Mon, Aug 20, 2007 at 13:24:40

Dave,

When is the first race for your team on the Wasatch Front? It would be great to cheer on the teams of the blog.

Total Distance
17.50

AM - 6x1000. Warmed up with Arctic Circle 3 with first group of runners. Then hit the track as the 2nd group ran for 1000's with 200 recovery. 1-3:31, 2-3;32, 3-3:34, 4-3:38, 5-3:37, 6-3:31. I am in kind of a funk. My body has decided to go slow and my mind is agreeing with it. Times were a bit slower than they needed to be. I just really kept drifting off mentally; then I would find myself in a jog until I snapped out of it. Not pleased with the workout - my effort on the workout, I should say. Then cooled down with the 3rd group as they did the Arctic Circle 3. (Cumulus orange 327.9)

PM - 7 Grapevine Springs Trail (North) - Nice run up the trail and back.  Felt pretty good and had an enjoyable experience.  Went quicker when I felt like it - which was actually much of the run. (Glycerin 489.75)

Comments
From Wildbull on Mon, Aug 20, 2007 at 14:27:35

Sounds like you have hit a Training plateau. Change things up a little. Run with out your Garmin a few times. Make sure your easy days are really easy! Cut back on your mileage by 20 to 30 percent for one week. Call the Wild Bull out and run him into the ground:):) Good luck Dave.

From Dave Holt on Mon, Aug 20, 2007 at 14:53:11

I just had an epiphany! The reason I am struggling is because I trimmed my (so called) beard for school. Luckily I didn't shave it all the way, so it will be back soon and things will get back to normal.

And you thought the beard was bad, Bill.

From Logan on Mon, Aug 20, 2007 at 15:04:26

I would watch Rocky 4 when he takes on Drago. Adrian!!

From Sasha Pachev on Mon, Aug 20, 2007 at 15:06:07

How fast were they?

From Wildbull on Mon, Aug 20, 2007 at 15:19:21

Okay Samson! Tell the Dress code people at work it is your religious right! And keep the cat away from your face at night:)

From Dave Holt on Mon, Aug 20, 2007 at 15:41:09

Sasha, I'll have to get my watch for exact times, but mostly mid to high 3:30's. My best one was the last where I forced myself to make the last 400 the fastest (but I still only hit it in 3:32 with a 1:20 final 400)

Bill, I am never held down by The Man. The reason I shaved is because I realized what an idiot I looked like with this patchy mess on my face!

From Dustin on Mon, Aug 20, 2007 at 15:59:51

Anytime I can find a new running route that helps some. Also changing types of workouts sometimes helps. Also, look at it as only about 7 more weeks until the marathon. Another advantage you would have would be relying some on your cross country team to help you out. I know you're worried about helping them as much as possible, but continue to find joy in watching them succeed with their running. When I was coaching, I would work in an occasional game of ultimate football or a scavenger hunt, some other game where they were running almost the whole time, but also having fun. I would guess as adults if there is anyway to bring some of that fun into our training it would probably help. Now, I know we won't be planning any club scavenger runs, mainly because Bill is banned from most places in town and we're serious adults, but I really enjoyed training and running in the Wasatch Back Relay. I'm kind of like you Dave, I'm getting a little burned out with the running thing,and I don't even do as many miles as you. I really think after St. George I need to find a new marathon to train for, some place I haven't been and a race I haven't done. Anyway, those are just some of my ramblings.

From ryan on Mon, Aug 20, 2007 at 21:53:20

hey dave, i have marveled at the kind of mileage that you put in. maybe week of rest would be beneficial. under training for a week would be better than over training for a week considering your recent race. take a day or two off and then do a shorter faster run to give you a boost. good luck. i'm running on ave about a third of the mileage you are and i'm getting burned out.

Total Distance
16.00

AM - 10 on treadmill at decline. Throwing in a little decline running here and there to prep the old legs for SGM. Warmed up for a mile. Then 4 at 6:40. They felt okay and weren't too bad. Then 3 at 6:00. Again felt pretty good with no real issues. Then last 2 at 5:49. A little fatigued at the end, but a good moderate workout. Nothing crazy, but a few good miles to get the legs moving after what was supposed to be a hard day yesterday. Wanted to get one more in for a cool down, but I was later getting going than necessary and needed to get ready for the day. (Landreth 387.7)

Not sure when I will get my 6 in tonight with Back-to-School Night. But I figure something out.

PM - 6 MillCreek Trail and around Green Springs area.  Not a very good run.  Felt very tired and sleepy.  My head was pounding.  And my stomach was fighting me the whole time.  When I got home I didn't feel well.  (Cumulus red 279.1)

Comments
From Wildbull on Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 10:26:13

Good job on the dreadmill. It is so nice in the morning to run right now.

From Mik'L on Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 11:20:50

I don't know how you do so much on the treadmill. I can't handle it, but I'll have to get used to it cuz I'm a wuss in the winter.

Total Distance
0.00

Well... I guess I'm sick. The last few days I have gotten progressively worse. I tried to tell myself that my allergies were just acting up and that I could run through them. But after last nights run and during the night, things just got worse. It is just a head cold, but it has knocked me out. No run this morning and I missed practice trying to get every ounce of sleep I could. Although it will severely mess up my miles for the week, I think I will take tonight off as well and try to rest and get better. It is just tough to "give in" and miss a workout when I hadn't missed one all summer. Oh well, it was an easy day anyway.

Comments
From WILDBULL on Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 10:49:11

Get well soon Dave. This is a good week to reduce your miles anyway.. Get some rest and put in another video!

From Dustin on Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 11:05:24

Hope you get to feeling better. Take a day or two off and get some more rest and you should be fine. I wouldn't stress so much about the miles per week, sometimes you just have to listen to your body.

From Superfly on Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 16:46:27

When I got sick a few weeks ago it was like a blessing. Because I'd never had taken time off by myself but was forced to. In the long run it turned out good. After getting bettrer and resting up I've felt stronger than I had all summer.

So don't let the miles guy control your life. If your sick get some rest and then we will all need to watch out.

From Mike K on Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 18:51:35

Rest! If you need one day then take two. Unless you have been licking handrails at school then sickness is probably a sign that you need to rest.

From Jeff on Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 22:50:59

Getting sick sucks!

From Chris Rogers on Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 23:38:46

I agree with Mike--rest, rest and rest! You have enough of a base that even two days isn't going to kill you. There are studies out there that show even if you don't run for a week to week and a half that the most you'll lose is 1%--literally nothing in the big scheme of things (and especially this far out from SGM)!

Total Distance
18.50

AM - 6.5 Treadmill. Warmup .75 and then the rest at a nice easy 7:30. Felt pretty good, with no real fatigue from being sick. It was hard not to run last night as I started to feel a little better. I watched those miles just fade away and forced myself to sit still. A challenge for me the rest of the week is going to be to not worry about making the miles up. I know I shouldn't be a slave to miles, but let's face it, we all are a little bit. I feel stronger and quite a bit better today, so the rest helped me physically and I think mentally a bit too. I was kind of drained of running, and now, even with just one day off, I want to get back out there and do some damage. (cumulus orange 334.4)

PM - 12 Club run.  Started with 2.75 up past Chuckawalla on the paved trail and back before everyone got there.  Then we went out to Red Hills golf course and we all did 3xcourse and had a good run talking cross-country and stuff.  Then I wished the racers well this weekend and continued on for 2 more laps around the course and really enjoyed the solitude, cool, and beauty of it.  It was a fun and  regenerative run.  And I only almost killed myself tripping just a few times.  (cumulus red 291.1)

Comments
From Superfly on Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 12:43:07

Glad to hear your feeling better. Yes I'm running tonight but I'll only go 6 miles max tonight. You may want to get a few more in- See ya there if you can make it.

Total Distance
19.60

AM - 11 2xGreen Springs clubhouse and 1xArctic Circle with team. Nice enjoyable runs. The 2nd Green Springs was especially nice as Monty and I hit some pretty good running. Feeling a bit better. The old nasal cavity is still experience a little log jam, but all-in-all improving. (Landreth 398.7)

afternoon - 8.6 Powerline and back to PVHS.  Hot!  so I cut it shorter than planned.  Passing out does no good.  (Landreth 406.9)  Forgot to bring another pair of shoes so they hadn't recovered yet. 

Comments
From ArmyRunner on Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 15:36:01

Dave,

No word from St. George yet. I am still hoping for a favorable reply.

From Logan on Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 16:24:48

I will race it. I am trying to make it like the second half of St. George. I hope it will be fast.

From Jon on Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 23:36:33

How long do you let your shoes recover for?

Logan rules! St. George eats our dust!

From Ruthie on Sat, Aug 25, 2007 at 00:12:04

Sasha's got the course tool back to it's former glory, so you can now analyze the State XC course! Woo hoo!

From ArmyRunner on Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 12:42:29

Dave,

I will be in St. George on Monday evening and Tuesday next week the 3rd and 4th and was wondering if I could link up with anyone from the St. George bloggers for an early run on Tuesday morning. Anywhere from 10-15 miles would be great depending on what time we started. I have to be at a meeting at 8:00am so need to be back at the hotel NLT 7:15am. I will be staying in the Ramada Inn on St. George BLVD.

From Logan on Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 17:23:32

I think a bunch of us are ready to really push it at St. George. It will be nice to help each other along.

Total Distance
0.00

Bummer - cold is back with a vengeance!  Fell asleep on the bus ride home from Cedar and just felt like crap all day.  Doped up and went to sleep early.

Week was kind of blown because of this blasted cold.

Goals for next week:  #1, get feeling better.  Once that has happened, do what I can to make it a productive week.  I want to hit two good Tempo sessions as well as a solid long run.  Let's do it!

Total Distance
0.00

One more day of rest.  Yesterday was marked by sleep and a distinct soreness in my jaw.  I hope this cold doesn't move into my ears - I get the worst ear infections and it could still be there all the way to the SGM.  So I figured take another one off and get it better.

Total Distance
15.25

AM - 10.25 Arctic Circle x 3. All right! Back at it today. What an amazing morning for a run. An awesome lunar eclipse made it nice and dark, so you could see the Milky Way so clear. Then as we started a huge shooting star streaked across half the sky! Very Cool. And I feel quite a bit better. I didn't take it hard, and won't for a day or two. Maybe a short run this evening to top off the ol' 30th b-day. (cumulus red 301.35)

PM - 5 Washington Parkway. After a glutton of cake and M&M's (and Chocolate Soy Milk!) went out for an easy 5 on the Parkway. Good run and had some good energy. Hopefully it will stick around for a few days, and I can get better all the way. (Landreth 411.9)

Comments
From Dustin on Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 16:19:43

Congrats on the birthday, even though that means one more guy in the age division. It is a good thing I got a bunch of medals and ribbons when I was younger, because they are hard to come by now days, with some of you guys out there. I hit the big 32 on Saturday.

From Wildbull on Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 16:40:52

Happy Birthday Dave,

you will never catch me! But good luck in trying!

From Logan on Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 16:45:59

Happy Birthday! School is going pretty good. I also get very tired. I probably put in a couple extra miles of walking around Fremont each day. It is a huge school!

From Mik'L on Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 16:47:35

Happy 30th! You're old!

From Superfly on Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 17:28:49

Happy Birthday big boy.

Question for you? Are you going to A. Race the race this weekend all out. B. Run as a tempo. C. Not run it at all. Or D. Something else.

I'm not in the mood to try and race a half again. But would like to run it as part of a 18 or 20 mile run where we do the race part at marathon pace give or take like 5:35-40 pace. We could practice trading leads and not kill ourselfs doing so. Then depending on how we feel the last couple you could just drop me and go win.

But if you are planning on racing it all out then that's o.k. too and I'll just do my own thing.

Let me know.

From Ruthie on Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 23:04:29

Thanks for making the PVHS blog, that'll make it so I don't make stupid mistakes like that tempo the day of repeat 800s. BTW, we definitely should go up to Pine Valley on Labor Day! And, I guess I'll wish you "Happy Birthday!" again. :)

From ryan on Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 01:42:05

congrats on the b-day. hope you get feeling better. now that you are 30 i'll really be glad to move out of the age group in a few months!!!!!!

Total Distance
11.00

AM - 11 2450 x 2 and Arctic Circle with a few laps thrown in here and there.  A little sluggish at first, but it felt okay.  This will be my only run for the day as we have a meet in Cedar and I don't want to push it too much just yet until I am sure I am feeling better all the way.  (cumulus orange 345.4)

As I ran, I thought back to previous years and realized that I often get sick at this time of year.  Last year, I am not so sure (Pre-blog and didn't keep that good of records), but it seemed like I developed a bit of an ear-infection around this time that affected me for about a week.  2005, I was pretty sick for 3 weeks leading up to Top of Utah, and it really wiped me out.  I think it is a combination of things: not as much time to rest (being at school), being in close proximity with many kids, and needing more rest because teaching really takes it out of me.  Now that I am seeing a little trend, I will watch out for it next year and try to prepare for it better. 

Comments
From Mik'L on Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 12:05:00

Sorry about the soy milk. Clyde likes that stuff. I told him to take you some Airborn...apparantly you need to down some during the first of the school year with all your sickness!

From Superfly on Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 18:34:18

That soy milk will work wonders. As for being sick around the start of school it is pretty common. After not being around the "public" for the summer and then getting thrown into a classroom with many students with all kinds of infections your bound to catch something the first few weeks. It happens in any type atmospher like that.

From ryan on Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 23:54:45

speaking of milk. soy milk is technically a juice. and milk is a baby food. Humans are the only species that think they have to drink milk from cradle to grave. ween yourself.

From Dave Holt on Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 09:40:47

But it is so good! And I technically don't like the images your description puts into my head :) nice chatting with you last night Newman.

Total Distance
16.70

AM - 6 Treadmill at decline. 1 mile warmup and then Drago and I went for a little jog at 7:03 pace. Decent run as I watched the World Championships - that Lagat 1500 is something! Bone Spur on left foot has been giving me fits the last few days, so I am back to ice, ice, ice... which I really shouldn't have left off anyway. (Landreth 417.9)

evening - 10.7 Powerline with Clyde.  Great run that started out with a boom.  Just as we hit the trail a flash of lightning hit within a few hundred yards of us and I screamed like a girl and jumped into Clyde's lap (we can't post what Clyde said!).  We recovered and headed up the trail in the rain.  Hoped a turtle might be out, but no such luck.  As we made the turn onto Millcreek, the rain had compacted the sand perfectly and we made a nice 6:10 pace out of it all the way home (about 6 miles).  My best run since Provo.  (Cumulus orange 357.3)

Comments
From Ruthie on Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 21:07:08

Ice, ice, baby... dun dun dun dun dudda dun dun.

From Mik'L on Fri, Aug 31, 2007 at 12:22:32

Just the mental picture is funny enough...I can't imagine how hard I would have laughed to see this for real. I can't believe the crazy stuff you guys run in.

Total Distance
10.00

AM - 10 Arctic Circle x 3 with a little track between groups and some extension on the 2nd and 3rd.  Not really a fast set of runs today.  In fact, the kids were ditching me.  But it was good to get out and go with them.  (Cumulus red 311.35)

Comments
From Ruthie on Fri, Aug 31, 2007 at 19:22:49

Can I please run tomorrow? I am SO sick of not running.... I feel like a total loser.

Race: River 1/2 Marathon (13.1 Miles) 01:18:09, Place overall: 2
Total Distance
18.00

More details later when I get some time, but for now... I suck. Goal was to go out at marathon pace with Clyde and hit 5:40's. To keep it simple, I was struggling to hit anything even right off the bat. And then it got worse. And I really think it was one of my worst runs ever.

Okay I feel a little better about the run (at least its not as bad as originally thought) now that a few days have passed.

Splits:

3.3 warmup 

1-5:40 right on and felt okay. 2-5:51 a mostly uphill mile. 3-5:31 mostly downhill section. 4-5:47 a lot of rolling ups and downs, I can't hit a very good flow. 5-5:39 Clyde is leading most of it and I can't really get up to take a turn to help. 6-5:44 hit a GU at the water just before 6 to see if it helped.  (water stops were a joke). 7-5:45 just fighting too hard to bring it down. 8-5:44 One last push to try and stay with Clyde. 9-5:52 starting to fade. 10-6:30 let the hill own me.  11-6:09 Decided to just sit back and hit 6:00's as to not spend too much energy (I want a good workout Monday). 12-6:28 decided if Dustin caught me, I would let him just go by. 13-6:59 pathetic finish. 13.1 6:40 pace.

2.2 cool down to go help my bro finished.  Like the rest of us, he is dehydrated and struggling on this last difficult section of the race.  (Paramount 18)

Now to analyze why I struggled.  (These aren't excuses, just stuff I think happened that led to the poor run.): #1- I was not in the racing mind set.  I only thought of this as a workout and even just wore trainers.  So I had to magic.  #2- dehydration.  The heat and improper hydration set in quick on me.  #3- weight loss.  I weighed myself before the run and was only 147 - where I am usually at 153 give or take 2 pounds.  After eating and drinking a load and getting home, I only weighed 145, so I bet I had dropped to low 140's by the end of the race.  Some of this was from being sick, but most of it was poor eating at the end of the week.  I had missed a couple meals and had small meals a couple times for various reasons.  Those are some of the reasons - Need to focus on taking better care of myself.

Comments
From Ruthie on Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 19:51:58

Oh no! The curse of the 'second-overall' is coming back! RUN!...um...I mean HIDE! Or something?

Total Distance
20.00

morning - 20 SGM course.  Slept in and got a late start on the run! 

But I didn't care.  Started out at Veyo at 7:45, then went up 1 mile to

Brookside, and then headed back down.  Goal was to just go easy for

about 10ish and then pick it up to pace for 6 or more.  1st 5 weren't

bad hitting times right around 7.  Then dropped it to 6:30's for the

next 5.  Things were going well and I wasn't pushing.  Came off the

volcano in 5:23, through Winchester in 5:41 and 5:39, up the Winchester

Hill at 6:11 - not too bad of a drop - 5:44, decided to keep pushing

through the twist in 5:25, 5:44, 5:40 and down to Diagonal at 5:47.  By

this time I was pretty well spent in a good workout sort of way and

went down Bluff and up the Ridge at a pedestrian pace to finish the

last mile.  Happy with the workout.  And felt glad that I could hit it

after the poor workout on Saturday.  Ran in my new Saucony Paramount

again.  I like the shoe and think it should work out pretty well. 

Running in new shoes has helped calm my bone spur issue a bit. 

(Paramount 38)

Comments
From Superfly on Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 16:04:17

Good workout on Monday. Wish I could have been there for it. Your looking good so far this week. Don't worry too much about Saturday. We all have bad days. In fact that was a pretty good day to have a bad day. Is this week you Vegas meet? If so good luck.

Total Distance
16.80

AM - 10 Treadmill. Warmed up for a mile, then Drago and I went for a nice easy run for 9 more at 7:30 as I watched some of the World Championships. A bit tight and I stopped a few times to stretch. Not really into it for the tiredness and boringness of a treadmill run. (Cumulus silver 10 - new pair of Asics Cumulus 9 - "I like it a lot!")

PM - 6.8 Green Springs. No watch no time. Just went out and tried to loosen up a bit and get ready for tomorrow morning's run. (Landreth 424.7)

Comments
From Jeff on Wed, Sep 05, 2007 at 00:47:09

Saturday you were hiting my weight. Your really letting yourself go. :)

Total Distance
18.15

AM - 12.15 PVMS, Hospital, and Arctic Circle. Sleep-running is no fun. Warmed up with the 2.5 to PVMS and then tried to hit tempo for 6 miles of the hospital. But they were slow and I struggled because of fatigue and just plain tiredness. I did feel like I was working hard, however. Then finished with the 3 mile Arctic run. (Paramount 50.15)

evening - 6 Treadmill.  1 mile warmup and then 5 at an easy 7:30.  Had the metronome ticking at 84 beats/minute.  This is my usual rate when going at 6:30 or so pace (hit it on the way down the course on Monday), but I don't hit it at a slower pace.  So I worked on hitting it pretty good for most of the run.  (cumulus 461.3)

Comments
From jtshad on Wed, Sep 05, 2007 at 15:16:01

How do you like your Paramounts? I run in Saucony's and was curious about this new shoe and its comfort and durability/wear with the "pods" construction on the heel.

From Dave Holt on Wed, Sep 05, 2007 at 16:06:26

They are pretty good. Of course the wear is minimal now, with only a few runs on them - so we will see. That is how I always judge a shoe - how it feels from 200 miles on. I would never pay the big bucks for them though. I don't feel anything in them that makes them stand out from any other shoe that I like. But this is my first pair of Saucony, and I might try another pair because I do like the feel of them.

From Ally on Wed, Sep 05, 2007 at 18:43:17

So I'm doing xc here and our first meet is this weekend at the byuh invitational, i will tell you how it goes!

From Mik'L on Thu, Sep 06, 2007 at 12:52:09

Hey- could you ask Ally if she will help me with the STGM party thing we are doing the day before? Kendra has the expo that day so she won't be able to help out and I keep meaning to call Ally and keep forgetting.

Guess who came in to my office this morning? Tia! She has been running quite a bit I guess (she looks really good) and might start running with me every so often.

From James on Thu, Sep 06, 2007 at 15:16:20

Dave,

I found out a week before school started that the Girls Coach had left Bear River. I am student teaching with the head coach,(which I didn't know at the time), and gave him a call. He was pretty pumped to have someone that knew what they were doing and could push the faster kids. I don't think that the other people applying for the job were too happy that a student teacher beat them out though. He did some juggling around, gave the girls to the other assistant, and he took the JV boys. I am excited because it will be fun to help build a program, plus coaching at two different High Schools will be good on the resume.

Total Distance
17.10

afternoon - 8 River Run.  Nice and easy 8 in the still pretty hot weather.  Kept it relaxed as to not overdo myself.  (Cumulus orange 365.3)

PM - 9.1 Club run through Entrada.  Again nice and easy pace, and I enjoyed it that way.  Had a good time chatting and contemplating the SGM.  (Cumulus silver 19.1) 

Total Distance
27.50

AM - 9 AC x 3. Good morning runs with the team. (Cumulus red 320.35)

PM - 18.5 Quail Creek.  Went out after going to dinner and the Mexican was sitting a little heavy.  But I needed to get the run in tonight - unless I wanted to get up at 3:00 and get it in before leaving to Vegas.  So... Plan was to cruise it for the first 10 and then hit 6 at MP then finish off the run.  Well I guess two parts of that plan went well - I just cruised the first half and then I was able to finish the run.  But that was it.  In fact, Most of the run I was only thinking, "I just want this to be done."  The pace was slow and not very effective.  I almost got hit by a diesel out by the distribution center.  The only thing that got me through was the thought that this was my biggest week ever (and I don't really know when or how it happened) and that I am starting to cut my miles a little now.  Paramounts kind of bugged me a bit tonight.  (Paramount 68.65)

 

Comments
From Ally on Sun, Sep 09, 2007 at 01:40:22

we had our first meet today, check it out

From Ruthie on Sun, Sep 09, 2007 at 03:04:49

Hey - could you remember to get that training schedule for Jon to me on Monday? I keep forgetting to ask you for it and he's getting kinda impatient. Thanks!

Total Distance
10.00

AM - 10 Wendy's run.  Back at it early before we took off to Vegas.  Pace was a bit better than last night, but I didn't time it.  I just wanted to end the week a little better than last night's run.  (Cumulus silver 29.1)

Some good things this week:  Hit biggest mileage ever!  Had a great workout Monday.  However, Weds. and Fridays' runs were a bit poor.  

Goals for next week: Cut the mileage a bit 90-95.  Have a strong long run on Friday morning.  Hit a good set of 1200's.  Feel faster and stronger. 

Total Distance
15.00

AM - 10 6x1200's. Started with a short warmup of 1.5 - Hart's (should have been more, but I didn't have time). Then into the 1200's on the track with a 200 between each. Goal was to hit these at marathon pace 5:35-5:40. Nothing too quick to kill me, but get back some quicker pace that I've felt I have lost. So the times should be at 4:15. 1-4:20 A little slow, but still warming up. 2-4:22 slipped a little on the 2nd and 3rd laps. 3-4:20 made a effort to work on the 2nd and 3rd laps. Wasn't really killing myself, but my body really didn't feel like giving me a lot - This is one reason I am excited to cut my miles a little this week. 4-4:15 Still working on the 3rd lap, but also went out harder. 5-4:17 Tried to connect all three laps, but 2nd slipped. 6-4:17 Now feel like I am working a bit harder, but not all out. Cooled off with 3 on the AC. (cumulus red 330.35)

I guess this is one area I feel like I am not as strong at this year. In marathon preps past, I have really had a much stronger speed base with 800's. But this year, I have focused a lot more on mileage - which I had analyzed to be my major weakness - leaving a hole in the speed training. So it has me a little nervous, but I think/hope that my mileage and attempting to have more of a tempo focus will pay off.

PM - 5 Washington Parkway.  Felt a little zing in my legs and let myself go with it.  Didn't time the run, but the pace was decent - not MP or anything, but a nice quickness to it.  (Landreth 429.7)

Comments
From Wildbull on Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 15:58:38

Good work out Dave. I think you will do great at the marathon. Sorry to hear about the Bus Saturday. You missed a nice work out with the club.

From Dave Holt on Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 16:51:56

Yeah what a bummer. The kids were pretty disappointed (the ones that care!) and I think they would have run well. Oh well, what can you do.

From Sasha Pachev on Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 17:46:40

Dave - unless you've lost something big time since Provo River Half, your speed should be OK. You were running 5:20s in a half-marathon even when it was almost flat. You may have an issue with the sense of pace, though. Remember that when you're fit, marathon pace hurts, even from mile 1!

From Dave Holt on Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 09:26:57

Sasha, I think that you hit it right on the head! The pace and the numbers just seem so incredibly fast to me that I'm have some doubts and fears enter my head. When you said after Provo that I could hit a 2:23 or so, the immediate thought that entered my head was, "No way can I hit a 1:13 after what I just did." How can I overcome that in the next few weeks. Not even necessarily to hit a 2:23 but at 2:25/27 even sub 30? Help me! I'm already feeling like Clyde and the race is still a month away!

From Sasha Pachev on Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 11:52:14

Dave, read Alma 57:47: Now they never had fought, yet they did not fear death; and they did think more upon the liberty of their fathers than they did upon their lives; yea, they had been taught by their mothers, that if they did not doubt, God would deliver them. I would approach St. George from a different point of view. You can run it for time next year. This is the year to run it to conquer fear. Even if you bonk and die, the experience and the memory of being with the pack that qualified will be something that will mentally revamp you in the next year. I can remember an similar experience that I consider to be one of the defining moments in my running career, as well as life in general. In 1999 in the Provo Freedom Run 10 K at the 2 mile mark I heard a loud police siren. It was louder than I had ever heard, because I had never been that close to the leader in a race that was big enough to have a siren-wailing police escort. I looked at my split, it was 10:10. I looked at the pack I was with - I was out of my league. A thought came to me - you are in a lion's den. It was followed by another - that is ok, you belong here because you are a baby lion. I cannot possibly describe in words the significance of this experience on my future training and racing, but I can tell you that without it things would not be the same, I would not have reached the level I am at now.

From Superfly on Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 11:59:23

Hey I'm not freaking out...yet. Actually I'm pretty confident about the race this year. I'm going to try and keep things controled the first half and then unleash a lion the second half... at least maybe a baby lion.

From Wildbull on Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 12:05:51

look at what you have done this year! You have nothing to prove to anyone but yourself. You have the times from past races. Your body knows how to run fast. you have done the training. you have skill and ability. Run your own race! you will be amazed how good you will do.

From Lybi on Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 14:03:23

Holt, you're amazing. You know it, we know it--everybody knows it. You're gonna fly, so save all your adrenaline for October 6th when it will actually help, ok?

From James on Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 21:43:41

Do you ever run with your kids(cross country)?

From Dave Holt on Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 09:35:53

On our morning runs (3xweek) I will run with them. But other than that it is hard. It is SO HOT down here I still have to take water out to them.

Total Distance
18.00

late morning - 10.75 GS/PL/WT.  Took off in hopes of getting this run in with a little time to spare to eat some lunch.  Went pretty much as planned.  The best part of the run was up Green Springs.  Even up a pretty consistent hill, I was hitting a good pace with little effort.  The trail was in good condition and that section went okay as well.  (Cumulus 472.05)

afternoon - 7.25 Took water out to the kids and then ran up the bottom side of Foremaster to meet them on their run - 3.  Then brought water back to school and went out into Sandberg's Pond and ran 4.25 around a little.  (Paramount 75.9) 

Total Distance
19.25

AM - 11 ACx3 and some laps in between. I feel a little sluggish and worm-down today. I get 6 or so in tonight - then I would like to sleep in tomorrow, but I can't sneak out during prep tomorrow, I've got to get grades caught up for mid-term. (Cumulus silver 40.1)

PM - 8.25 Green Springs and 10xbarefoot grass striders.  Run was good tonight, especially the grass striders.  I love doing these and they felt great on my foot.  I was really working on form.  (Cumulus orange 372.3) 

Comments
From Logan on Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 13:12:16

I am joining the pace group for Jon. Paul and me are doing it for sure. It should be at about a 6:00/mile pace.

Total Distance
21.50

AM - 12 on treadmill. Started with a warmup and then took it to 6:40 with an incline until mile 6. Then I took the pace down to 6:00 and set Drago at a decline. The pace was smooth and the decline practice helps. I tried to work on keeping good form. (Cumulus silver 52.1)

evening - 9.5 Club run.  Tried to go Entrada, but got kicked off.  So, Bill, Steve, and I went out to Ivins and back.  Had a good consistent run.  Pace on the 5 back was pretty much at 6:40 with no effort.  (Cumulus red 339.85) 

Comments
From ArmyRunner on Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 18:07:12

Dave,

I am officially in St. George. They were actually going to change the entry you offered but Sasha found a comp. entry as well so I don't think they changed her entry. However, I am just happy I got in and am willing to compensate your female runner that was willing to give up her spot. Just let me know and I can send a check or pay you when I'm at St. George.

Total Distance
20.10

AM - 20.1 Junction and Wendy's.  Up earlier than human beings should be (but unfortunately this isn't the 1st time I've been up this early running).  On the way out to the Junction, it was very dark, but my eyes had adjusted a bit, and I was running by the lines of the road.  Then a cement truck came and didn't look like it wanted to move, so I stepped off the road.  Of course, he turned on his brights - why do all cars insist on doing this? - so now I was completely blind.  Then he honked.  Instinctively, I looked up so as to see what was going on and BAM!  I nailed a reflector-pole that had been bent over by a car - right on my shin.  It sent me crashing to the ground.  What are the odds?  The elements could not have added up worse.  So I continued on trying to ignore the fact that my leg felt as if it had been chopped off by a hack saw.  I had decided I wanted to do 3 sets of 2 miles at MP.  So when I hit the junction I did the first.  First mile was a little slow, but not bad for still waking up and just getting into a quicker pace - 6:00; then the second came down to 5:48 - including .2 up a hill at the end.  So I felt good about it.  Hit a water and gu stop at 10 and then continued.  Next set I was feeling pretty sore and fatigued now.  This set was along Twin Lakes in Middleton.  I only hit them in 6:20's.  Things just weren't flowing right.  By the time I needed to hit the 3rd set, I could barely move.  Unfortunately the 6:40's I hit were quite the increase in pace by that time.  Then I limped home.  (Paramount 96)

I think I have figured out the Paramounts and why my feet and legs killed by the middle of this run.  The Paramounts feel good up to 10, but after every step becomes more and more painful.


 

Comments
From Superfly on Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 14:11:07

Good job getting the whole run in with all the extra drama that was going on. Hope your leg is o.k. Have a good, solid week.

Total Distance
9.10

AM - 9.1 Jordan River Trail. Up early and went from the hotel down to Jordan River Trail. Planned on going up the trail 5 and then back. But I went up for a couple and then the trail ended. So I turned around and headed the other way... and it ended again. So again I headed up the first direction and hit the end. By this time I needed to get back to get the kids herded out toward the bus, so I scooted on back and got ready for the day. Did 2 miles at 6:20 and it felt so easy - as it should. But after yesterday's debacle I was a little worried. (Cumulus silver 61.2)

Good week mileage wise.  I went a few more than originally planned, but decided that I needed to hold the mileage for just a little longer before dropping it.  

Goals for next week: get a good set of mile repeats in.  Hit low 80's mileage and start getting the legs a little fresher. 

Total Distance
18.25

AM - 10 3xAC and some laps with team. Good start to the week. Nice temps out. (Cumulus silver 71.2)

PM - 4xcemetary mile.  After about a 3 mile warmup, I got into the mile repeats.  Goal was to hit right around 5:30's (which according to the course tool is worth about a 5:18, whatever... it is a pretty hard loop).  1-5:35.  Felt good, just kind of feeling out the pace.  It had been some time since I had done these miles.  2-5:32 Picked it up and felt like I was going under 5:30, but lost a little at the end. 3-DISASTER! Okay maybe not a disaster today, but it would have been in two weeks.  Going very well - under 30 without a doubt when coming off a corner, I stepped on some gravel and my left ankle just gave out.  I tried to stumble to a stop.  Luckily the guy driving right at me saw it happen and moved over as I gimped and hobbled and tried to keep my balance (he even turned around to see if I was alright - a decent fellow).  I walked lightly for a minute and then jogged a couple hundred yards to see if I could still go.  Then I decided to try and finish the workout.  So I came back to where I had stopped and got going again.  There was a slight stabbing pain across the top of my left foot, but I continued on.  That mile ended up being 5:44 - not bad considering the time lost for autopause and resuming speed with the ankle - added to it the fact that on this and my last repeat, the autolap hit the mile at least 30 meters later than the first two (that really bugs me).  Took my 2 minute jog in-between and decided to do my last one and that I could still go 5:30.  I started off great, telling myself that I had to push extra hard to overcome the wimpyness II was feeling.  But I really sat back on the corners and by the end the ankle was bothering me quite a bit - ended up hitting 5:32 on the 4th (again, watch went long).  Jogged back home and iced up.  (Paramount 102.25)


Total Distance
0.00

The ankle really went bad last night.  One of my girls needed me in the night and I couldn't even stand up.  Obviously no run this morning, and I doubt anything tonight.  My Jeep is broken down and I had to drive my dad's old truck to school that has a beastly clutch.  Every second was extreme pain.  I'm a little worried because there is absolutely no swelling or bruising (break? - please no!).  Before it happened, I had been thinking, "What if I sprained my ankle?" and I convinced myself not to worry about it since you can't predict it or do anything about it.  I guess I'm glad it happened now and not in two weeks.

Comments
From jtshad on Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 09:45:19

Dave, hope you ankle is just a slight twist/sprain. Take it easy the next couple of days to allow for a good recovery before SGM.

From Dustin on Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 11:16:11

I know all to well the pains of twisted ankles. I would just be sure you let that thing get healed. Your training has been so good this year, I think you'll be fine even if you have to take a few days off, and then resume even with some easy running. Which ankle was it right or left? I have a boot for a right foot, if it is that bad.

From Dave Holt on Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 11:54:19

Thanks Dustin, but it's on the left. Your workout last night looked good. Keep it up.

From James on Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 12:19:40

Ouch! I have done some major damage to my ankles over the years so I feel your pain. I hope it isn't too bad!

From Superfly on Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 12:20:54

Dude hope your o.k. Just the other day I was thinking that now isn't the time to try anything crazy and get hurt. It's more time to just stay healthy and get rested up. Something like that you just can't plan for thought. Ice and Ib all day at school. Hope it gets feeling better fast.

From Logan on Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 16:02:54

Sorry about the ankle. Hopefully it gets better soon. Lots of ice and elevation.

From Wildbull on Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 18:57:37

come on! it is not bleeding no blood! Go out and give me 10!

Total Distance
5.00

I was never so happy to see a fat green ankle as I was last night.  Things loosened up considerably throughout the day and I decided to give it a try this morning.

AM - 5 Washington Loop.  Took it very easy and cut the mileage in half just to be careful.  Only a little pain, but nothing significant.  I'm sure I'll be at full strength tomorrow - whatever that is.  (Cumulus orange 377.3) 

Comments
From ArmyRunner on Wed, Sep 19, 2007 at 09:19:25

Glad to see you were able to run this morning and your ankle looks ugly. Hopefully a couple easy days and you will be good to go.

From Superfly on Wed, Sep 19, 2007 at 11:28:08

Good to hear. I'm not sure of what time you have things going on-on Thursday morning. But if you could squeeze in a run I'd like to maybe do something. I'll be out of town the rest of this week and most of next, so I'd like to hook up where we can.

From Sasha Pachev on Wed, Sep 19, 2007 at 15:12:12

I find that external damage injuries heal a lot faster than the running overuse ones.

From Mike K on Wed, Sep 19, 2007 at 18:11:16

Don't over do it. It is close to taper time. A little extra taper is better than a sore ankle on race day. You have had a great "Summer of Dave".

From Mike K on Wed, Sep 19, 2007 at 19:53:12

Don't over do it. It is close to taper time. A little extra taper is better than a sore ankle on race day. You have had a great "Summer of Dave".

From Ally on Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 02:11:08

tell z i say hey! and that i love him

From amanda on Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 21:54:13

Don't hurt yourself to much. But you know yourself better then any one, so run on your ankle if you think it is ok!!! amanda lusk

From Ruth on Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 22:22:44

"You sho is ugly!"

"He thinks he's a gangsta..."

From Jeff on Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 09:25:40

Gangsta Gangsta

If you have time could you post my pyramid times from monday as a comment. I keep forgeting to get them from you.

Total Distance
19.35

noon - 8 River Run.  Enjoyed the one perk of parent-teachers and ran with the team out to AC as they did and ice cream run, and I continued on around the River Run.  Temps were so perfect.  Ankle felt okay, but I didn't push any of it.  (Paramount 112.25)

evening - 11.35 club run Santa Clara Ivins loop.  Just Steve and I tonight, and we both felt blah.  He was a bit dehydrated, and I just felt muscle fatigue.  I think not running Tuesday after the mile repeats made it so I didn't work out any of the crap that was built up and now I trying to slowly work it out.  (Cumulus silver 82.55) 

Comments
From Logan on Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 09:43:13

Hopefully the ankle is feeling better. It looks like it. I will see you guys tomorrow.

Total Distance
15.00

AM - 10.5 ACx3 and some laps. Boy was I dragging this morning. All three runs were pretty pathetic. Pretty much the same issue as yesterday. It doesn't help that I have forgotten to use the Stick after the last three runs. Really the only time that I notice that that thing does any good is when I forget to use it, then I realize its benefits. (Paramount 122.75)

PM - 4.5 Went down to the soccer fields (.7) and ran 1 mile barefoot and then 8x100 barefoot striders and then finished with another mile barefoot (3.1 total). Then back home. Running barefoot felt great, and I hoped it would feel good on my ankle. (Cumulus red 341.25)

Comments
From James on Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 11:44:44

Thanks for calling me back last night. Phil Olsen caled a few minutes after we got off the phone, and I got everything all straightened out. I don't know a lot of those different rules yet, and the sad thing is, I know more than my fellow coaches. Thanks for the clafication, and good luck with that ankle!

Race: Swiss Days 5K (3.1 Miles) 00:16:57, Place overall: 3, Place in age division: 1
Total Distance
16.60

morning - 2 mile warmup for Swiss Days 5K. I thought about not racing hard and pacing my kids to help them - as my ankle was giving me some pain. But once I warmed up, I decided to give racing hard a try. I shouldn't have - at least then I would have had an excuse of why I ran so slow.

Took off wanting to run a better time than last year and try and hang with Hayden "running warrior". I knew Logan was ready for a sub 16 with his speed work, and I wasn't. Started off in 5th. At mile 1 I took out my top runner, at that point, and urged him to go with me. Then quickly took out Brandon Wignall, an SUU walk on and decent runner (winner of last year's race). Hit mile 1 in 5:27, better than last year (5:32), on a hard mile, so I thought things were looking good. From here, however, I became complacent and just settled. I tried one small surge to go get Hayden. When I didn't gain any ground I gave up - even committing the cardinal sin of looking back to make sure I was set at 3rd. So that's where I ended up... with crap.

Cooled down a mile.

Went up to Snow Canyon with Logan, Steve, and my bro. and got into it. First mile was good, then my Garmin's watch pin fell out and got lost, so I had to carry it - the watch. Then I lost it. My body had nothing. This was pretty much the way I had felt all week. My ankle was bothering me a little, but it wasn't really the problem. We got done 10.5 miles later and I was happy to be done. Although the intense rain and rivers of water on the way down were cool - and the amazing waterfall coming down Snow Canyon! But the run was blah. (Ohana 109.5, Cumulus silver 95.05)

This week is one I want to just erase. The ankle, the bad runs, the poor race. Just wipe it all out.

Goals for next week: #1) get my ankle feeling better. On top of this, I just want to start feeling sharp. I want 65 miles this week. And I want them to lead me to feel that I am ready to do well.

Comments
From Ruthie on Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 23:28:57

Welcome to my life last week.

Total Distance
11.00

AM - 11 ACx3 with various groups of kids from the team and laps in between.  Felt I had a little more zing today.  But the ankle has a constant pain to it.  I'll just keep it with some easy miles for a day or two more.  (Paramount133.75)

Comments
From Jon on Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 16:18:38

What exactly was the "summer of Dave" anyways?

From Dave Holt on Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 16:35:39

On Seinfeld, George looses his job and decides to have a "summer of George" before he goes and finds a new one. A time where he was going to read and do all this great stuff. Instead he just sits around and watches tv and just atrophies. Then he slips on his "cheap" wedding invites and essentially gets paralyzed because his muscles had been in such a state of disuse.

So... The "summer of Dave" was just me enjoying my time off teaching - and running A LOT, coaching, working on my house, spending time with my wife and kids, and just all the cool stuff I would love to do if I lived like Clyde!

It has always been my mantra that "if something doesn't relate to Seinfeld, you shouldn't be doing it anyway".

From Austin on Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 19:55:09

Fine coach!!!!!!!!! But i do disagree with your reasoning because i could be concidered your boy. Reasons being that you tell me what to do in class and in our running work outs. :)

From Dustin on Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 13:01:16

I think I could use a Summer of Dustin next summer. I feel like I'm getting a lot of things in place (teaching closer to home now, extra money coming in with Driver's Ed. even though it means extra hours aways from home and training, and a lot of the house projects are now done still have to do the addition and the swimming pool, but things are coming together.

Total Distance
10.00

afternoon - 10 on River Trail from Car Wash down through Bloomington Hills to the river bridge and back.  Felt a little stronger today.  The 2nd half had a little better push.  (Cumulus red 351.25)

Total Distance
15.00

AM - 3xAC with some laps. Felt a little better again today. I think the taper is starting to set in a little and my body is starting to recover a little. Hopefully I can keep sharp - maybe a few striders now and then will help. (Paramount 143.75)

evening - 5 Washington Parkway.  Beautiful evening with the Harvest Moon rising (thanks for the lesson Chad) and the perfect temps.  Took it to tempo pace - or what felt like it - down the Parkway and back into my neighborhood trying to get a little turnover in my legs.  Ankle not giving me as much pain and I feel a little more recovered every day.  (Cumulus orange 382.3) 

Comments
From Dustin on Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 14:12:25

I thought I saw you running on the trail yesterday as I was driving by in the Drivers Ed car. You've got to love the temperatures lately, made for some nice afternoon workouts.

From Ruthie on Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 19:38:03

Only one more day of 3xAC for you! (except for all the rest of the years you coach - ouch.)

Total Distance
10.40

evening - 10.4 Club run with Steve and Dustin around Black Hill and up Main and SGM course to store, and then I finished with a loop up to the parkway and through our favorite ending.  Felt a lot better.  The taper is working.  Ankle felt fine until the last downhill on the parkway.  Pace was excellent - 6:40 average for the whole workout, with just good solid running throughout.  I liked it a lot... (Cumulus silver 105.45) 

Total Distance
10.00

AM - 10 Junction.  Ankle was stiff and cumbersome this morning.  It has been nearly 2 weeks and it is still struggling.  Run was nothing great, but life is good.  Cedar Invite tonight, go PV - XC 4 Eva! (Paramount 153.75)

Comments
From James on Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 23:51:37

Dave,

I sprained my ankle almost two years ago and it is stiff and sore most morning still. Once I get moving it is fine, but those things take a while. You will run great!

How was the Cedar invite, and how did Cedar do?

From amanda on Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 00:04:52

You are an awsome coach!!! XC 4 Eva!!!

Total Distance
12.00

AM - 12 Started with a slow easy warm up mile around Vernon Worthen Park twice as everyone showed up (7:50). Then we - Steve, Dustin, Toby, and I - headed up to Snow Canyon to run down the course (same run as last week, hoping for a better result - it was). Not bad temps, but a bit of an uphill in-your-face breeze. Started right off with a 6:20 - my watch isn't with me so these are approx. - but it didn't seem hard. Them a 5:55, and a 6:05 up Winchester without even increasing effort. I wanted to hit 3 miles at Tempo through the twist and Steve came with me. 5:40, and then two 5:20's. Backed off for the next two miles and Dustin came up strong to join us 6:10's. Then we moved it up again down diagonal and in to the finish, taking it from 5:50's down to 5:30's for the final 2.5 Then hit another easy lap for a 1/2 mile around the Park. Total ave. with the warm up and cool down was 6:10. Dustin and Steve had the ave. for the 10.5 at around 5:50. Felt great and it really got me pumped up for the race. Dustin and Steve ran very well also. (Cumulus silver 117.45)

Total Distance
10.50

AM - 10.5 3xAC with some laps.  Last time for this run for awhile!  Hips hurt on the last lap.  It's those stupid Paramounts.  They are crap.  (Paramount 164.25)

Comments
From jtshad on Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 11:29:23

Well, I guess I know your opinion now about these shoes...I won't be looking at them for my next pair. What in particular is causing the problem? Is it the outsole, I have wondered how stable they are.

From Dave Holt on Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 16:40:19

Although they are not a "cushion" shoe, they seem to have less than anything I have ever worn (except racers). The midfoot is really poundy as a result and the stability seems off so my foot feels wobbly.

Total Distance
0.00

A little stomach flu action all night -- blah.

Comments
From Lybi on Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 09:51:02

Oh no...not you too! Sleep all day and get well soon!

From Superfly on Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 11:01:15

Hope your feeling better-fast! We should run a couple times this week and work out a plan... I'll be there on Thursday night, but if you want we can get together between now and then too.

From amanda on Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 19:40:07

I hope you start to fill better soon!!!

Total Distance
5.00

PM - 5 Washington Loop.  A little worried as stomach was still making waves, but I decided to get out and give it a try.  Felt pretty good leg and breathing-wise, and stomach even stayed under control until I pushed for 2 3 minute sections.  Tried to start getting some high carbs in after run, but the carb drink I got was horrid and about impossible to keep down, and I really didn't feel like eating - so I didn't nearly get as much as I needed.  Got a good night sleep and feeling a little better today (Thurs.).  (Landreth 434.7)

Comments
From Paul Petersen on Thu, Oct 04, 2007 at 10:24:31

You must have caught the same stomach thing I had. I think I'm better now. Hopefully it's not too late for a delayed carbo-load! See you tomorrow.

From Mik'L on Thu, Oct 04, 2007 at 11:23:44

Glad you are feeling better. Sorry I missed the girls yesterday! I was way bummed about it. You must be a pretty amazing coach getting the guys in to shape for first place! Especially THOSE guys!

From Dustin on Thu, Oct 04, 2007 at 11:30:22

Hope you start feeling better. I'm feeling pretty good and ready to go. I'm still having some hips issues, and I've had a little sore throat, but nothing too bad. I think I'm ready to go. Is anybody running tonight and at what time and where? I know we had also talked some about helping Steve. I'll be in St. George all afternoon with Driver's Ed.

From Dave Holt on Thu, Oct 04, 2007 at 13:12:30

I chatted with Steve last night and he wasn't sure what time he could set up. So, we are just meeting for a run down to the finish and back at 7:00. Unless Steve calls and we will do something different.

From Logan on Thu, Oct 04, 2007 at 14:24:47

Hope you are feeling better. We should all get together for a loosen up the legs run tomorrow for whoever is down there.

Total Distance
4.60

evening - 4.6 club run down river trail from Dixie Center after helping Steve get things set up for the expo. I've decided it is impossible to carbo-load when you don't feel like eating. Although I am feeling a bit better, I really could use another day or two. Oh well... here we go. (Cumulus silver 122.05)

Comments
From amanda on Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 18:33:10

Great job on your marathon!!!!!

Total Distance
3.00

afternooon - 3 on treadmill at 7:30 pace.  Just went for a little jog.  (Cumulus orange 385.3)

Race: St. George Marathon (26.2 Miles) 02:26:52, Place overall: 15, Place in age division: 2
Total Distance
26.20

Met up with Clyde and Paul and hit a bus at 5:00 without even waiting in line. Once to the start, just tried to keep relaxed, warm, and use the bathroom a couple times. Jogged around the start line for just a minute and stretched for a second and decided it was time to be ready. Goal was to go together with Clyde and Logan and pick people off as they fell off giving us someone to always go for and pull us to our sub 2:30. I really felt like 2:27 was what I wanted and 2:25 was the best I had in me (Both of which were probably right on).

1-5:27 I was worried about what the effects of getting out so much faster than last year would be (6:20 and 6:14). But I knew I had to do it to bring the time down.

2-5:34 Kind of got out of the crowd and tried to settle a little.

3-5:17 Tried to talk a little, but I was pretty anxious. Had trouble getting my drink here at 3. Maybe I could have done without it, but analyzing my other marathons made me think I had suffered from some dehydration by the way I bonked - so I didn't want to do it again. Ultima

4-5:18 Back rolling again.

5-5:28 We caught up to Nick Mcoombs here and it seemed to kind of kick him into gear. Clyde and I settled back into this pack and Logan stayed up front with Nick.

6-5:16 Dropping down toward Veyo group stayed the same.

7-5:24 Threw my dad my hat in Veyo and got a hardy yell from him. Logan is starting to move away with Nick. Clyde and I look at our watches and realize we are doing extremely well and can keep it calm up the hill. Water and Gu

8-6:13 Maybe just a little slow, but everyone that passed us going up, we caught later in the race.

9-5:48 Clyde fell off me a little here. But I seemed to recover from Veyo okay and wanted to set up a good Dammeron set.

10-5:42 Feeling good.

11-6:02 Last of the Dammeron's. I had gradually pulled to the left of the road (all by myself) and then realized that the aid station was on the right, so I had to slide back. Ultima

12-5:43 Still see Logan up on me by about 40 seconds and think about closing the gap. But I am still right where I want to be and decide the race still has a long way to go. In retrospect, I think I should have closed up on him if possible.

13-5:28 Half in 1:13:35 This is exactly where I wanted to be. See a tall fellow in the distance. It is Steve A.

14-5:24 Doing well through Diamond and closing quickly on Steve.

15-5:20 Encourage Steve to go with me during this mile - and he does. Again the aid station on the outside of a turn, dumb. Water

16-5:08 Always a fast mile. And I let out a gleeful little yell.

17-5:14 Trying not to think about Winchester hill. Instead trying to use the downhill.

18-5:25 Still trying to stay forward. Fatigue is coming.

19-5:53 Didn't hit this hill as well as I should have. But my ward's aid station at the end got me moving across the top again. The yells were deafening. Very cool. Ultima and Gu.

20-5:36 Hit 20at 1:50:50 and thinking 2:25 is possible if I can keep 5:30's, but my stomach starts grumbling.

21-5:23 I really worked on the Twist in my training, so hopefully it will pay off.  But as I am dropping through, my stomach is just twisting.  Throughout the race, I had been battling having to make a pit stop, and I'm hoping it can hold off for just a few more minutes.  Bad news was the stomach didn't back off - good news was it decided to come up the other way.  So for about 1/2 mile I threw up about every 10 steps as I tried to keep pushing.  After loosing it about 15 times, my stomach seemed to relax a little.

22-5:45 Legs are really spent.  I feel someone get right up on me and start drafting as a little breeze picks up.  It's Steve A.

23-5:39 Steve goes around me quickly followed by Clyde.  I attempt to go with Clyde, but I am really maxed out.  It felt like I was standing still, but the times were still okay.

24-5:46 Another yell from my dad and I pass Mike Kirk.

25-5:58 Clyde and now Matt Harmer had pulled away from me and I was just trying not to loose all I had worked for as I came down Diagonal.

26-6:03 The turns were hard as I lost momentum and had to get going again, even though nothing was there.

.2 (,25 on the Garmin)-1:25 (5:46 pace) saw that big clock ticking toward 2:27 and I knew I could break it, so just dug whatever was left and did it!

Race went extremely well. I really couldn't be more pleased with it. Nearly a 14 minute PR, and I ran all of it how I wanted - even held on through my puking during mile 21. And already I have analyzed how I can take 5 minutes off for next year. Of course that is going to take a ton of work, but next year I want a top 3 finish and a time that sets me up for an A standard when the window opens back up again.

Here's my 5 minute plan - 10 sec./mile : just by being a more experience runner and with better training (260 seconds). 10 more seconds on Veyo and 10 on mile 11 (280).  And finally 10-15 each on miles 22-26 (340 seconds) - for a total of 5 minutes and 40 seconds = 2:21:12

Congratulations to all the bloggers - so many of you ran awesome races. Of course especially Paul and Logan, great job guys! And it was great to meet many of you at dinner and at the race.

Comments
From ashman on Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 09:11:25

Dave, You ran tough and I'm really glad I got to run with you for a while. Keep plugging away because it's not too late it's only a matter of time for us. Keep the faith.

From Paul Petersen on Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 09:41:44

Dave - awesome job, and it great meeting you. I have no doubt you'll get that next 5 minutes and more.

From Austin on Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 09:46:45

Great job coach!!! That is an awsome time. Thats cool that you still ran even though you werent feeling well.

From Superfly on Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 10:01:35

Great race Dave. We did it! If your like me- I feel the weight is now off my shoulders and in years to come we can just go out swinging. It will be nice standing next to you in the top 10 line in years to come.

For now though take a few weeks or a month to rest up. Good luck to your cross country team the rest of the year.

From Cody on Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 10:37:22

Dave -

It was nice to finally meet you. I am so impressed with your running and dedication. It payed off big time this year for you. Enjoy it!

From Randy on Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 10:42:53

Dave, Congrats! That is an awesome PR!

From Logan on Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 10:56:16

14 minute PR! Awesome. Keep up the great work.

From The Beast on Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 14:44:09

Nice job coach! I'm looking forward to next year when you drop 5 minutes and reach your goal.

From James on Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 14:55:00

Awesome race! You have had a great year, and I am sure you will get that trials shot next time. Good to see you again, and I will see you at State. Good luck at region.

From Jon on Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 15:26:11

It was nice to finally meet you at the blogger party- and you ran an awesome race! 14 minute PR!

I'm glad you guys have such a great group down there in St. George. Maybe we will have to hold that Logan vs. St. George runoff sometime next summer, though we get dibs on Logan.

The summer of Dave paid off!

From Dave Holt on Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 15:44:38

Just 'cause his name is Logan doesn't mean you can claim him. I think he is still sporting that nifty St. George Running Center singlet last time I checked!

From amanda on Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 18:54:22

Well I guess you are felling better? Your time was amazing. I hope next year to be out there running the marathon!

From Brent on Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 21:11:49

Dave, great, great time, 14 minute PR, Wow, the faster you get the more the PR means, that was huge. How does the upchuck at mile 21 figure into your race plans, impressed with the upchuck and you still got a 14 minute PR. I remember Bob Kempenton, upchucking and winning the Olympic trials. Upchucking means you gave it quite an effort.

From Jeff on Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 23:31:43

Way to go Coach! It was so cool to see you come into the finish, I could tell that you gave it everything. I really look up to you.

From jtshad on Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 09:43:58

Great PR race! It was great meeting you. Keep up the hard work and I hope to see you again at a race.

From Dustin on Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 10:20:24

Way to go Dave. It has been awesome to train some with you and Clyde. Both of you guys are inspiring and testaments to what hard work and dedication can do. I need to get things in gear and take it to the next level training and racing wise, so the St. George Running Team can really rock!

From Mik'L on Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 11:45:21

Congrats on a great race and a PR! It's crazy how far you have come since the stroke. Really amazing. I hope you and Clyde can work together to get those 5 minutes. Please tell Ally thanks for helping me with the pasta dinner, especially when Piper was so sick. I hope everyone is feeling better now. And can you let me know if things change for region tomorrow? I don't want to miss it...again!

From Sasha Pachev on Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 19:10:04

Very good. You've dug a good trench to attack OTQ. I think the only thing that kept you from running 2:23 in the race was your general health. Which would emphasize the importance of proper diet. Take this matter very seriously, that could very well end up being the barrier that would separate you from the qualifier. You should be able to gain more fitness from sustained high mileage, but this will only happen if your general health cooperates.

Total Distance
4.70

afternoon - 4.7 Grapevine Springs out and back.  Tried to find the flattest route possible.  My soreness had been increasing since Saturday, so I wanted to just jog a little.  Took the GPS only for mileage, but it sure gave me some fun times back!  Ave pace was 9:30 and most of the run was spent at or above 10:00.  I just take this as a sign that my legs were totally trashed and I gave it all I could on Saturday.  No rush to get back with anything crazy, just easing into it and letting the legs heal this week.  (Paramount 168.45)

Comments
From ryan on Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 14:44:26

sounds like you have doms(delayed onset muscle soreness)I hope your recovery goes well thanks for the encouragement.

i a little sore sunday but no probrems going up or down stairs. monday worked all day. no soreness and couldn't tell that i had even ran a marathon. does this mean that i didn't push hard enough?

From Dave Holt on Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 15:14:10

I hate to say yes - but... I know you will go WELL under 3:00 next year if you give it a shot.

From Wildbull on Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 18:34:57

Good job getting out Dave. Congrats on the Marathon. your Super Dave! 2012 look out!

From James on Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 00:02:49

Good luck at Region tomoorow

Total Distance
4.70

evening- 4.7 Grapevine Springs out and back.  Same run as yesterday.  Didn't want to get out at all, but decided to.  I think I'm having a little post-race letdown.  I want to be out running a lot and fast, but since I can't I feel just kind of blah. (Paramount 173.15)
 

Total Distance
3.00

morning - 3 Washington City.  With meetings and region tonight, I got up and ran an easy 3.  Felt a little better about life today.  Region ended up going well - won 3 of 4 team titles and had 3 of 4 individual champs.  Only let down was girls Varsity missed state in a close race 37, 41, 42 (Dixie, Snow Canyon, us).  It put a damper on all the other success.  Didn't get out after like I thought I would.  (cumulus red 354.25)
 

Comments
From Jeff on Sun, Oct 14, 2007 at 00:44:01

Thanks for everything! Congratulations on Region.

Total Distance
5.00

evening - 5 club run out and back on Snow Canyon Parkway trail.  First time the pace dropped down around 7:30 for the run.  Still a little sore - in the calves - and fatigued.  (Paramount 178.15)

Total Distance
4.85

morning - 4.85 Green Springs from PVHS for practice.  Watched my varsity boys ditch me as we went up and back.  (Paramount 183.0)

Comments
From The Beast on Fri, Oct 12, 2007 at 19:23:51

Thanks for the good year coach!

From ryan on Fri, Oct 12, 2007 at 20:20:49

good to see your slowly getting back on the horse. i am still waiting for my horse to come back. i just can't seem to find time to run but i will hopefully on saturday.

From amanda on Fri, Oct 12, 2007 at 22:29:57

Coach your awsome!!!

Total Distance
6.50

morning - 6.5 Grapevine Springs Trail.  Out and back up the trail, which is on the opposite side of the freeway than trail I ran the other days in the week.  Feeling okay.  Want to run more, but realize I need to give myself the recovery.  (Paramount

Goals for next week:  biggest goal is to feel recovered - so whatever that may bring.  I would like to get back to 60-70 miles this week, but we'll see.

Comments
From Austin VERY IMPORTAN on Sun, Oct 14, 2007 at 21:27:52

VERY IMPORTANT!!!!!!!!! Just needed to get your attention. Here is the link to see the region photos my dad took.

http://picasaweb.google.com/gsmitti

From Jeff on Sun, Oct 14, 2007 at 23:37:00

Those are some cool pictures!

Total Distance
5.00

evening - 5 Washington Loop with 11th.  Slow start to the week.  I may not hit my mileage goal, with State xc this week.  But once it is over...!  Run was pretty good.  Legs are starting to feel better.  Even beat a guy on a bike until he got embarrassed and started pushing downhill. (cumulus red 359.15)

Comments
From Logan on Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 10:01:27

I wanted to come down early this Wednesday to watch 3A run but I have to ride the bus down with the Fremont kids. We will get there at about 2:30. I think I will miss the races by just a bit.

From Mik'L on Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 17:32:26

Good luck at State!

Total Distance
7.00

evening - 7 in SLC, around South Towne with team (2.3) and then out toward Draper and back. Cold and rainy, especially the last part of the run. At first I wondered how long is was going to take to start snapping back a little. But after about 4 miles, the run started to get quite a bit better and I ran the last three or so at around 6:20 pace. I thought about going 10, but I was freezing, my watch got water in it, and I wanted to get back and try to dry it out. I think it survived. State XC tomorrow - in the rain and snow! (Paramount 190.0)

Comments
From Superfly on Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 10:03:51

Good luck to all. Hope the weather is better than it sounds.

Total Distance
10.00

morning - 10 in SLC from South Towne south into Draper and back.  Good run, but cold.  I didn't really warm up physically and runningly (?) throughout the whole run.  Nonetheless, I was happy to get back to a 10 miler.  (Paramount 200.0)

Comments
From Superfly on Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 10:25:58

runningly ? Hope to see you tonight at the club run and you can fill us in on the details of state. Good job!

From WILDBULL on Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 16:21:21

7 PM IS THE PLAN

Total Distance
10.00

evening - 10 club run with Clyde through Entrada.  Had a very good run - things are coming back!  Had a good chat with Clyde, and we hit a pretty good pace.  7:10 ave - including the 5 miles of dark golf course - paved trail sections were all around 6:30-45.  (Cumulus silver 132.05)

Comments
From steve on Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 09:37:28

You should have let me know that you were running in my hood,(Draper)we could have went out for a run.

From Dave Holt on Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 10:12:42

I thought about it - but I didn't want to get up at your crazy hour!

Total Distance
10.70

afternoon - 10.7 GS/PL/WT trail.  Felt a little more tired after yesterday's run.  Put the watch on "grade" for the two big hills - on the first it is just a short 26% and the water tank read 16% at its steepest.  Whatever... Kind of fun to play around with.  (Cumulus orange 396)

Total Distance
13.20

morning - 13.2 Diamond Trail. Club braved the hunters (I wore the orange SGM shirt from 2006) and ran from Diamond Valley across to the Turkey Farm Road then across the to desert (not sure of the trail name) and onto the Parkway and to the store. Good run. A little speed at times. A little cross-country adventure. And beautiful weather and country. (Paramount 213.2)

Good recovery week - now it's time to get back to business a little more.

Goals for the week: Get up in the morning!  Hooray, I love AM runs. I would like to be right about 80 miles for the week.  I am going to try some speed on Monday (10K prep speed - although I don't have much time before the Butch Cassidy, I would like to see if I can do well in it) if my legs let me.  Another goal; get back into the weight room.  Hooray again, I love lifting slightly heavy objects and letting the world know how absolutely wimpy I am!  Then a 15 or so on Saturday.   

Total Distance
15.00

AM - 5 on treadmill at 1%. 1 mile warmup and then 4 at 6:58. Felt like I had been up early running for a few weeks! (Cumulus 477.05)

afternoon - 10, 3 mile warmup to AC and then hit the track for 12x400.

1-1:13 thought I would be a little slower, not having done these for many months; 2-1:14; 3-1:13; 4-1:12 stayed strong through the first set (I break them up into fours in my mind, it makes it easier to handle than 12 or 16 or 20); 5-1:13; 6-1:13 really starting to have to work to keep form together and feet quick; 7-1:14; 8-1:14; 9-1:16 time shot up and I took a quick bathroom break, coming back I decided because of the break I would do 12 not 10 like was in my mind around 6; 10-1:12 brought it back and had a brief thought of hitting 16, it went away quickly; 11-1:15 fighting too hard now, I'll just do one more; 12-1:16 shows it was time to be done.

The fours went pretty good. I was happy with the times and that I was able to keep it together for most of the repeats. It wasn't 16, but it was solid. Legs were pretty spent by the end. Then I went and did weights - just 2 sets of the routine, as to not be too sore tomorrow. And then I went out and did a 2 mile cool down on DI loop. (Paramount 223.2)

Total Distance
13.00

AM - 5 Washington Loop and extension. Fought getting up this morning, but I ended up doing it. Glad I did. Wasn't sore or anything, but a little fatigued in the legs. Feel like I am getting more-and-more ready to roll. I made my final decision on Tucson - All they would give me was 1/2 price entry (not like I am some superhero, yet!, but having a very solid chance to win based on recent times, I thought they would do more than that. Whatever...) - so I won't be going. (Cumulus silver 137.05)

afternoon - 8 River Trail Run - felt the soreness, mostly from the weights, I think, but also probably some from the 4's.  Didn't ever really run out of it too much and the pace was nothing spectacular.  Ave was just over 7:00.  Did almost get hit by about 10 cars which was fun.  I felt like Frogger.  Usually this run doesn't have to deal with much traffic, only 2 lights where I have to stop, but today traffic was pulling out of every corner and store.  And none of them looked right when turning right...Ahhhh, my pet peeve.  (Paramount 231.2) 

Comments
From jtshad on Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 12:17:41

Sorry about Tucson...I contacted the Tri-Cities RD and gave back a flat out no benefit response even after indicating "you could get the course record." Ditto no response at the Zeitgeist HM in Boise and the Missoula Marathon this past summer...message seems clear that smaller marathons more often than not don't like to comp.

From Dave Holt on Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 12:42:51

I sure that for smaller marathons, it might be an unusual request, and more difficult to come up with something to help comp. But it seems like they would want some quicker runners to help build their race - I mean a free entry is really no money out of their pocket.

From Sasha Pachev on Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 12:51:15

That would be one reason to skip it. It is also a Sunday race.

I am running St. Jude on Dec 1. They also have a half, and you can get a comp there. The drawback is that you have to find a way to get to Memphis, TN. Or you can just wait until Painters half.

From Sasha Pachev on Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 13:07:37

And, one of the most short sighted things a race director can do is turn down a comp request to a decent runner, especially somebody with a blog that gets over 200 unique visitors a month. Not only will the runner himself not come, he will spread the word. There is no forgiveness for this sin in this world, or in the world to come :-) I've had a few races turn me down for a comp in the past, and I've discouraged every runner I know from running that race when the subject came up. On the other hand, when the race director shows that he understands the meaning of the word "race" and the amount of effort it takes to race well, I strongly encourage others to run it.

I think with the help of the blog we can put some heat on the race directors to make a race a race. It is OK to have a race double as a fund raiser or a party, but it very tempting to make it first a fund raiser or a party, and then a race as a side activity. In my opinion, if you want to have a party, call it a party, if you want to have a fund raiser, call it a fund raiser, but if you call it a race, make it a race first.

From Dave Holt on Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 13:50:01

I've decided that I'll just keep on plugging until Painter's. The positive spin I'm putting on it is that I'll be able to keep building the base throughout the winter, uninterupted. Then in early Feb. I am going to go down and run Sedona Marathon. Not a fast course, Corbin Talley won it 2 years ago with a 2:40 something, but I hear it's beautiful. Also my wife and I can drive there and make it an outing - and the race is on Saturday.

From Dustin on Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 14:37:27

Hey Dave

That is interesting I was just looking at the Sedona site over the weekend. I'm thinking about a marathon around that time, a lot depends on if I decide to go out to Boston again or not.

I'm probably going to take it easy for a few more days, and see if I can get this hip pain to go away.

From WILDBULL on Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 11:05:16

I will get my miles up again Dave. Get the base back up to 70. Thanks for the advise.

From Ruthie on Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 21:15:30

I thought you'd like this quote. It reminds me of that post you made. And a few certain someones. ;)

"Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential." ~Liane Cardes

From Dave Holt on Thu, Oct 25, 2007 at 09:29:51

SO true!

Total Distance
12.00

afternoon - 12 out and back from PVHS down River Trail. I kind of like

this run, I may make it a regular throughout the winter. All downhill

out and uphill back. It does even out quite a bit along the river,

however. Really felt sluggish and out of it on the way down. On the

way back I hit mile 7 faster than I had done mile 6, so I decided to

try and negative split. And for the entire run back, I hit times

quicker than on the way down (not crazy, but 6:30-6:45), then I slowed

on the last 2 which have the more significant hill back up to the

school. But I did negative split by a minute and a half. Although I

wasn't blazing, it felt good to get the legs going. (Cumulus silver

149.05)

Total Distance
14.45

AM - 7.15 Green Springs Loop. Sleep running this morning, throughout the whole run. I spent most of the run at or near 8:00 pace. I just could get out of it. That is one of the things I love about the winter - most of my main runs/harder runs come in the afternoon when the temps are perfect and I am alert and can really do my best. Today however, I had to get a few more in the morning with XC awards dinner this evening. I'll still catch about 5 this afternoon and try to get a quick set of weights in. (Paramount 238.35)

afternoon - 5.3 Staheli Hill with Ruth and JFre.  Hadn't done this run in a long time.  I enjoy it, as it is a little change of pace and the hill work is consistent and hard in a part.  Came back and did weights (again just two sets, to avoid too much soreness - next week I'll bump up to three sets).  Then finished with 2 on the DI loop to stretch out and cooldown.  (Cumulus red 366.45)

Total Distance
13.30

AM - 5 Washington Loop. Felt quite a bit better this morning. No watch to compare pace to, but the run was just much smoother than the last few days and I felt more energetic. (Landreth 439.7)

evening - 8.3 SandHill. A beautiful and beastly run. The 1 mile sand dune always just about sucks everything out of you. But being out in the desert and enjoying a beautiful evening and sunset are all worth it.  Hit the last three miles dropping out of the desert at 6:20.  (paramount 246.65)

Comments
From ryan on Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 21:45:19

i will be out of town that weekend but even if i was going to be here i hadn't planned to run it. i might try the new snow canyon half. do you know what the course is like(where it starts and ends).

Total Distance
13.65

morning - 13.65 Club run out to Santa Clara and back through Ivins.  First run where I felt really good since the marathon.  I was really happy about this run.  The pace was smooth and I wasn't working to hit anything - it all just flowed.  6:40 ave for the whole run - slower at first and quicker at the end.  Ended with 4 miles of sub 6:20 pace (had another 6:20 in there somewhere as well).  Good ending to a good solid rebuilding week.  (Cumulus silver 162.7)

Week went well - got back into the weight room.  Hit the miles I wanted (80).  Had a decent speed workout.  And things felt solid at the end of the week.  Ready for another one.

Goals for next week:  Hit the miles at the same level for another week (80), then build up after that.  Have two good tempo runs - one on Monday and one on Weds.  Race fast on Saturday (10K) - win it! 

Comments
From Mik'L on Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 10:39:02

Speaking of track, do you have any sort of a schedule put together yet? I don't know if you've seen the talk about the Moab half, but I guess I need to see if we have a meet that day first (March 8th). I think that's usually Hurricane, but they were talking of changing it weren't they? Anyway, let me know.

BTW, I'm DYING about Chrissy...Tia called me this weekend to chat about it and it hadn't hit me until Clyde mentioned that you said I knew who it was.

Total Distance
16.15

AM - 7.15 Green Springs Loop. Felt a thousand times better than last Thursday. Legs felt fresh and strong. No watch, but the run was much faster. I am ready to give this 10K a shot - the Butch Cassidy is overall a quick course, with a fast gradual downhill 1st half. But the 2nd half is not as forgiving as it has two big climbs and is on dirt. But I would still like to hit below 31. (Precision 7.15) Wore a new pair of Mizuno Wave Precision 8's today. Have never worn Mizuno and I wanted to give it a try. the shoe felt light and fast. It had good support and cushion to it. However, all shoes feel good in the first 100 miles - it's after that is the real test.

An interesting thing on my run this morning. While recovering from my stroke (almost 2 years ago 11/1) I noticed my left leg was much stronger than my right leg, obviously. And throughout that spring when I was running again, my left leg seemed to have all the power and my right just moved. Well, after I had my setback in April of that year and got going again a month later, it seemed that I never noticed that again. Today I figured out why - my left leg hadn't felt strong again, so both legs were just going and I had nothing to compare it to. Today, my left leg felt very strong again. It was a very neat feeling, caused me to run in kind of a funny limp, but it was neat to feel the power in that leg again. But at the same time, it was a little odd to realize that for nearly 1 1/2 years I hadn't felt the strength in either leg.

afternoon - 7 Hospital.  1 mile warm up and then 6 miles of continuous tempo.  Mile 2 - 5:45 a little up and a little down; 3 - 5:38 Goold was calling me an old man and wanting to race, but I tried to keep it under control, gradual downhill past Target; 4 - 6:30 hospital hill, did a pretty decent job at keeping the effort, but the hill is long and tough; 5 - 5:29 drop down the backside of the hill and gradual up along Riverside; 6 - 6:10 continued uphill along Riverside, settled a little here; 7 - 6:28 up to PV and once around track, felt pretty solid knowing I had to push hard to keep a decent time here.  Pleased with the run.  Effort was solid throughout, with just minor slips in effort.  Then regular weight routine w/ 3 sets.  And finally 2 miles DI for a cool down.  (Paramount 255.65)

Total Distance
16.35

AM - 4 on treadmill @ 1%. Easy 4 this morning. 1 mile warmup and then 3 at 6:58. Nothing too great. It is hard to get back on the treadmill when I have been enjoying so many beautiful runs lately. (Precision 11.15)

afternoon - 12.35 River Trail down to Dixie Center.  Felt slow and tired today because I hadn't eaten or drank anything.  Realized I would be in major trouble on the way back if I didn't drink a little, so I went the extra bit to the DC trailhead and got a good drink and headed back.  Run back was good - hitting 6:45's without any extra effort, but then I started to feel it.  The last two miles were poor.  I am attributing it to the lack of nourishment for the day.  That's okay though, because some things are bigger than running.  (Cumulus silver 175.05)

Comments
From wheakory on Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 11:55:19

What's the temperature like in the mornings in Dogtown. Nice run on the Treadmill. I really find it harder running on the treadmill, and I sweat so much greater too. Good luck in your training, actually you don't need luck your at a high skilled level.

From Dave Holt on Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 12:53:28

Kory, right now life (and the temps.) couldn't be more perfect. Usually around mid 50's throughout this week. Then by the afternoon it is a balmy mid 70's - 80. Perfect!

Speaking of weather - don't freeze up there this winter.

From Mik'L on Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 13:43:36

Did you get my comment on your Saturday post? Just checking! Let me know when you have some info.

From Dave Holt on Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 14:06:45

Mik'L - I've got one in the works. But it is going to have a few changes. Remind me if I haven't gotten it to you in a few days. I'm not sure who will be going to Hurricane anyway if it is still the same. So make your Moab plans and don't worry about missing it.

Chrissy... How dumb can you get?

Total Distance
14.00

afternoon - 14 down 2450, onto Riverside, into fields, Staheli Farm, into Washington, and drop down at the DI and finish with part of the 800 loop.  First time I have run this, so now I need a name for it - PVHS/Fields run, I guess.  Run went amazingly!  I felt great.  Pace was consistent at 6:45, even when I tried to keep it under control, so that I wasn't going too fast.  Things were just smooth and even.  I would like to hope it is just another stage in my progression of running - not a passing fad - that 6:45 seems so easy now.  Finished the run with what I am going to call a Tinman Finish.  Based upon what I have read from Paul and Tinman research, a Tinman Tempo is a controlled Tempo pace.  So my Tinman Finish is at the end of all long runs, put into the next gear and have a strong controlled pace to finish - the goal, to continue to improve my finish for races.  So today, last three were 6:14, 6:04, 5:58.  (Precision 25.15)  Shoes felt good for their first longer run.  14 is probably the most I will ever take them, however.  There isn't as much forefoot cushion and I noticed it once or twice, but I was running so well I didn't care.

Total Distance
14.70

late morning - 6 Green Springs from PVHS. Sneaked out and got a run in. Hooray for me. (Landreth 445.7) These shoes are probably about done. In fact I have about 3 pair I should officially retire.

evening - 8.7 Chuckwalla trail run from store w/ club. Good run. Just sat back a relaxed with it. I didn't want to burn myself for Saturday. No weights today. (Cumulus red 375.15)

Comments
From steve on Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 20:05:40

I am, thanks. Looks like you are also motoring away as well. Your training looks really good. I can't believe that my skylons are already toast after only a month! Do your Landreths hold up well?

Total Distance
10.50

afternoon - 10.5 Junction through Coral Canyon.  A nice run out to the junction.  Weather is still perfect and my running is going well.  I was so pumped up by the reports of Sean, Paul, and Logan about NY that I had to real myself in more than once.  (precision 35.65)

Race: Butch Cassidy 10K (6.2 Miles) 00:32:50, Place overall: 2, Place in age division: 1
Total Distance
13.00

morning - ran .3 down to parents' to watch part of the Oly Trials before I caught my ride out to Springdale.  4.2 warm up in Springdale - felt ready for the race, had good goals in mind.  But stomach was churning, I had some issues because I had eaten a steak for lunch on Friday (not a smart idea - steak eats me up).  Was ready to race, then I found out the race didn't start for another hour.  So I went back and sat in the car and when it came time I ran another mile to rewarm up.  (Landreth 451.2)

I am still very displeased about the race.  Here's how it went:  Wanted to hit the first 3 miles all about 4:50 or so, it is quick, but the first half is nice gradual downhill and quick - then the 2nd half makes up for it.  Tony Jones (former WAC champion at Utah State and a runner I worked with at Hurricane) was my only competition, but he said he was just going to run 6's - I knew that was bull.  So I take off and gain the lead from Jose and others at about 1/3 mile, but it just wasn't flowing right.  Mile 1 came in at 5:05 - I didn't stress, I figured I could make it up okay on mile 2 (it is the fastest).  Mile 2 5:01 - okay I lied I can't make it up.  Well maybe the time won't be quite there, but I'll get a win and still hit decent.  Mile 3 5:18 - I hear Tony yell behind me, "Here I come Holt."  And he just zooms right by me, with only a brief slow down for me to yell at him.  I just let it go here.  My stomach was all over, and I pretty much just started looking for a place to use the restroom.  Mile 4 5:46 - big hill on this mile, but I should have been at 5:20.  Mile 5 5:31 - Here I should have dropped back to low 5:00's, and if I would have I would have easily caught Tony, he really wasn't running awesome; he didn't have to the guy chasing him sucked! Mile 6 5:30 - became content with where I was and just ran it in.  Finish (.11 on the Garmin), but I was ringing later and later on each mile :33 (5:26 pace) - stumbled around all the walkers and got done. (Ohana 141.9)

Ran back up the course and finished with some of my xc girls (Cumulus orange 397.3)

Well - not happy with the race, my time, my effort, my place.  I said I would do any more 10K's when I finished.  I guess I shouldn't be so upset - I hit a course PR by 1 minute over last year, but that is not what I want, to be competitive at local races, I want to dominate local races and take it to the next level; and this race did not move me in that direction.

Had a good week's mileage and workouts.  Race didn't turn out to well, however.

Goals for next week: Increase mileage up to 87, get a good Tempo workout in on Tues., and lift twice this week.  Be happy.

Comments
From Steve Hooper on Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 10:53:20

Hey Dave, Don't stress too much about the race on Sat. You're still only a month off the marathon and you could very well still have some post-marathon-funk going on. Great job on dropping your time by 1min. BE HAPPY!

From Dustin on Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 11:59:34

Hey Dave

Good effort, like Steve said your probably still recovering a little from the marathon.

I don't think it will be long before you are dominating the local races even more than you already are.

I'm still struggling even being able to run. I've been to the chiropractor and have found out what my hip issue is coming from. Hopefully, things will get better this week, and I can slowly get back to running. I'm actually really missing it right now, which is a good sign.

From Superfly on Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 12:23:27

Good race. That is not a fast course. Very hard second half. Plus I found last year it was hard to hit any speed this soon after the STGM. So overall a very good race.

Total Distance
17.15

AM - 7.15 Green Spring. A little easier to get up this morning because of the time change. Nothing to thrilling on the run. Just did it. (Paramount 262.8)

afternoon - 8 Washington Parkway from PVHS with Austin and Kimz.  These two smoked it - ave was 6:45 for the whole run.  Then weights.  And finished with 2 cool down on DI. (Precision 45.65) 

Comments
From Austin on Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 21:00:50

Hey coach thanks for inviting me to come run with the "Cool people". And thanks for being a great coach.

Total Distance
14.25

AM - 5 on treadmill @ 1%. 1/2 mile warmup and then just hit it at 7:30, didn't have a lot of umph and could tell I needed to keep it easy. (Cumulus red 380.15) Weighed 149.5 this morning.

afternoon - after getting my daughter tracked down after she ran away from school (1st grader) went out on a 9 miler with 6 tempo out and back to Middleton.  Started with the extension and then went out toward Middleton.  Had trouble warming up, muscle-wise, and wasn't sure if body was ready to hit a tempo.  Decided to get into after crossing Green Spring light at 2.75.  This would mean Tempo for the next 2 out and back and a hard section up FireStation Hill and back toward my house for the final two miles.  Started off just getting into it through Middleton (part gentle down/gentle up - 6:00; Then the next mile was mostly (.8) up Middleton Heights - 6:30 a little slow, but pretty decent climb; Then turned around and back down MH - 5:38 used the hill, but legs were loosing it; Back on the gentle roll of Middleton and across the intersection - 6:00 I felt pretty spent, my legs felt like Paula Radcliff's looked at the end of NY; Slowed for just a second and then told myself I wasn't going to give in yet and would go at least the next 1/2 mile to the base of FS.  When I got there I decided I should finish the 5th mile off - 6:30, was at 6 until the hill; Figured this last tempo mile was more moderate with just a few climbs so I should finish it off - 6:18 not great for a tempo mile, but at least I tried it; Finished off with whatever mileage was left around the extension.  Not a very good tempo workout.  It was probably too soon after the 10K, but I am glad I did it.  Lately I have been giving into my fatigued legs and mind, so I am glad I at least kept pushing today.  (Precision 55)

Total Distance
19.15

AM - 7.15 Green Springs. Not as hard getting up this morning which is always nice. Run was pretty slow - no watch - I could still feel some of the last week in my legs. (Paramount 269.95)

afternoon - 12 River Trail to DC.  Forgot watch today which was probably good.  It allowed me to just run how I felt, a bit tired, and not worry about trying to hit some pace or negative splits which I have done the other 2 times I ran this.  Construction on rebuilding the trail where it washed out because of the floods is in full gear as I had to dodge multiple tractors and diesels.  (Cumulus silver 187.05)

Comments
From Mik'L on Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 12:08:22

Piper ran away from school?! That is kinda crazy. BTW, good job on your 10K!

From steve hooper on Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 12:27:40

What are you doing still wearing those Saucony Paramounts? I had to even stop wearing mine for just walking around. Good thing we didn't pay full price!

From jtshad on Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 12:45:50

Paramounts not one of the better moves by Saucony from what you guys are telling me...how can they want as much for them as they do?

From Dave Holt on Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 13:04:37

Jeff and Steve, I've decided that I don't mind them (maybe even like them) for anything around 8 miles or so. They have a nice roll and flex to them, but every time I went longer in them, they just beat up my whole body. I also really like them on the trails. So it's not all bad - but worth the big bucks? NO!

MiK'L, It was Ry who ran. Pyper loves school and can't wait to go. In fact as we talked with Ry, Py interjected, "I wouldn't ever run away from school. It is my favorite place." If we could only keep them so young and innocent. Ry has been a hand full all year, however. And I guess she finally got sick enough of it to decide to make a break for it! In the mad chaos of trying to find her and talk to the school and police on the phone, Al about got hit by a huge sidedumper diesel as she ran a stop sign. Ahhh!

From Mik'L on Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 14:42:35

I was thinking Rylee was too old for first grade, plus it seems that Pyper is usually the crazy one! That is nuts. Where did you end up finding her? I bet Ally was dying...not to mention the diesel! Maybe you need to get her a new teacher?!

And what!?!...Alyse quit dance! I don't believe you! That is awesome...as long as she will come to track every day! I was going to ask...did Green make the bball team? She was telling me she might not make it and I was happy about that, but I'm betting she did.

From Dave Holt on Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 16:47:48

She did, but they told her 3rd string with little to no playing time. She wasn't sure what she was going to do - stay on, or drop. I told her to weigh out the options and what was most important to her. I haven't talked with her since, but she was supposed to talk to the coaches today.

Total Distance
16.00

AM - 5 Washington Loop - backwards. Temps are nice, pace was easy, life is good. (Cumulus orange 402.3)

afternoon - 1.5. .75 warmup around PVHS fields and then weights, followed by .75 cool down.  (Landreth 452.7)

evening - 9.5 Club run Sunbrook.  Got off to a quick start with Hayden and Austin (Those high schoolers are always pushing the pace).  Then got comfortable.  Made sure Jeff was in sight and knew where he was going, then went with Steve.  Hayden was long gone, so Steve and I got a pretty decent pace going and ended with a couple 6:00 miles.  (Paramount 279.45) 

Comments
From Steve Hooper on Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 10:49:42

Hey Dave Good run last night. I forgot to ask if you are running the Half This next weekend? If so let me know and I'll sign you up.

From jeff on Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 14:31:04

Thanks for not leaving me, I would have been lost. That was a fun run.

From j-free on Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 14:31:43

^

From Austin on Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 16:10:23

It was way fun to run with you guys. Am i invited to come every week?

From Holt on Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 16:22:24

everytime my man.

Total Distance
15.00

AM - 5 Washington Loop. Nice little run. Made it through the whole week getting up! Tomorrow is supposed to be 15, but I am not sure how I'll do it with our run-a-thon. Last year I just ran a bunch with the kids and hit 10 or so. (Cumulus 482.05)

afternoon - 10 Junction.  Took it out nice and relaxed and just had a good solid run.  Ran in new Asics Stratus that Steve ordered for me.  Felt good: light, cushiony, and quick.  (Stratus 10). 

Comments
From Mike K on Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 20:51:44

Are you running the 1/2 marathon on the 17th? We will be camping in Snow Canyon next weekend so I hope to cheer some of my FRB friends on while my wife does the 5 k.

From ryan on Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 00:30:45

hey dave, are you or any other club guys running the snow canyon half? where does it start and end? i'm not signed up yet but have thought about it, i would just like to know a little more about the race.

From Dave Holt on Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 09:49:33

Clyde and Steve are running for sure - I am too old to run this much I have decided! No... I'll be up in American Fork with some of my XC runners at a Pre-Footlocker race. So I'll let Clyde have this one! (As if I have a choice!)

I think it starts right up top - where the Spectrum used to run - and goes down to West Canyon, where it goes up for a while and then retraces it route - then down to Ivins and along the Parkway to the Snow Canyon ball fields. It sounds like a hairy course (that first section could beat the crap out of you and you'll won't realize it until you're running a minute slower/mile than planned at the end).

From Mike K on Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 09:53:21

With those guys going for it I'm glad I'll be cheering. Good luck at Pre-FLW.

Total Distance
18.00

throughout day - 18 on PVHS track.  It was our cross-country run-a-thon fundraiser, and I made a goal to run 3 miles with each group each time they ran (so 6 times x 3 miles).  The pace varied; sometimes I was cranking out low 5:00's and other times I was able to relax a bit and hit mid 7:00's.  The hard part was the start and stop.  Usually I had about 1 1/2 rest between and it started to play havoc on me.  By the last few sets, my right knee was swelling and in a bit of pain.  The limp and pain and swelling has stayed with me.  Team got 110 3/4 miles in ( just short of last years 112), but we have a bigger team with more of a range in skill as well.  We had fun and made some money.  (Precision 73)

Ran more miles than I was supposed to this week, and I wonder if that added to the issues with my knee.

Goals for next week:  get my knee feeling better, even if it costs me some running time.

Total Distance
0.00

Nothing this morning. I was even up-an-at-'em. So that wasn't the issue, but my knee was. It is still swollen and has a bit of pain in it at certain movement. I left my stuff at home so I didn't try something crazy after school. Then I'll decide tonight if the knee is feeling well enough to go out or not. I know it needs time off, but it is hard to lose those miles. Better a day or two now than a month or more later I guess.

Comments
From Logan on Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 13:34:02

Are you coming up to the Pre-Foot Locker race in American Fork this weekend? Also, are you going down to Foot Locker in California? I am going to both. Hope to see you there if you go.

From Dave Holt on Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 13:51:31

Yeah, we are coming up this weekend - but I won't be going to Cali, my kids will have to make it there on their own.

From wheakory on Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 14:26:06

Sometimes its hard to listen to our body and take days off when our head is telling us we still can do it. Smart choice by leaving your running stuff at home. Have a great week of running once that knee is healed.

Total Distance
0.00

Went to bed thinking I would be running, but when the alarm went off, and I got up, knee was still tight and swollen.  The pain was reduced, however.  Nonetheless, I decided to keep off it for a little longer and re-evaluate this afternoon.  Injuries suck.

Comments
From superfly on Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 20:53:10

Man how did that happen? I read your blog on Saturday... was it just from running on the track the whole time? Hope it heals soon.

Missing miles right now isn't a big deal. In fact it's a good thing. I'm just going to try and get through around the first two weeks of December and then take it easy. Even if I have time to run then- I'm still going to take it easy. I think 2-3 easy weeks are going to be a must before I jump back into it after the first of the year. I've decided if I don't take a little break like that my body may shut down and won't let me do the 120's I have planned.

Anyways I don't know where all that came from.

Did you ever figure anything out with that picture of us that you were going to give the STGRC. Let me know and I'll help if I can.

From ryan on Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 21:24:08

hope the knee gets better soon. i have had a couple of times when a knee starts to swell but it is always from my carpentry work and running actually seems to make it go away. rest is probably what you need whether you like it or not.good luck

Total Distance
10.15

AM - 5 Washington Loop. Decided if my knee felt at least as good as last night I would go out and give it a try in the morning. Got up and the knee felt pretty good. As I started off, and throughout the run, it felt very pudgy - kind of a squishy fat feeling. But for the most part it was okay. Then halfway into the run, a sharp pain developed on the inside of the knee and I wished I was close to home, so I could stop. Trying to loosen it, I did a butt-kick and that sent a very sharp pain all the way through me, so no more of those. The knee pain lasted for another mile; then I let my mind wander off and when I came back, the pain was gone. Iced and ib after. Now it feels just a small amount of swelling type of discomfort. I don't know if I'll go out this afternoon or not - if so it will be short, no more than 5. (Stratus 15)

evening - 5.15 Warm Springs and then down to ball fields for 1 mile barefoot grass.  Knee felt pretty decent this evening.  Not much pudginess and very little discomfort.  I wasn't sure if I should go run barefoot or not - I thought it might help align me a little, but I worried about the unsure footing of the grass.  I decided to; when I got there I interrupted someone's little session out in the middle of the field.  It reminded me of a time in high school - during a race at Dixie HS I led the pack down into Snow Park and there was a middle age couple doing their thing right next to the course (I could have reached out and kicked them), but they didn't seem to mind the distraction and kept on keepin' on.  For me, it was all the more reason to run fast and get out of there!  Anyway... the barefoot running was good once my feet were thoroughly frozen due to the wet grass.  (Paramount 283.6) 

Comments
From James on Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 18:56:34

What did you do to your knee? It seems like a lot of people are coming up lame, except Clyde who is still running 100 mile weeks. Oh well, no better time to take a break if needs be.

From steve ashbaker on Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 20:35:39

That sounds like an inflamed tendon in the knee. I had a very similar injury. I only jogged slowly on a grass field and treadmill. Occasionally I would take a day off. But in my experience it was not so much the distance but the intensity and incline of the run that made it worse. Keep icing and taking ib, it helped me a lot. Good luck and get better soon.

From dave holt on Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 11:30:56

Steve, I think that would about best describe it. The grass running felt a lot better and any twinges seem to be going away slowly. I think I might try a little more tonight, but keep it slow, and see how it feels.

Total Distance
12.00

AM - 5 on treadmill at 1%. Warmed up for 1/2 mile and then kept it just at 7:30 for the next mile and a half. The knee was feeling pretty decent and warmed up, so I took it down to 6:58 and finished out the next three. I will keep the miles pretty low the rest of the week and not lift tonight and hopefully all will feel back to normal next week. (Precision 78)

evening - 7 St. George Running Center Club run down trail through Dixie Downs and back up by Snow Canyon High School and onto trail and back.  Run was okay.  Here and there my knee was giving me problems.  I didn't push any parts.  (Cumulus silver 194.05) 

Total Distance
12.15

AM - 7.15 Green Springs. Slept in a little since almost all school is gone to the state football game, so no need to show up early - anyway, got going and run went well. My knee pain hasn't been showing up until the last section of the run. I don't know if that is good or bad. Headed up to Provo for Pre-Foot Locker this afternoon. (Precision 85.15)

PM - 5 in Orem.  Around UVSC and then into Orem a little.  Knee was still there.  (Stratus 20) 

Comments
From Benn on Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 10:45:00

Someone at work yesterday told me to "listen to [my] body because it is what knows best." Just don't push yourself too hard. Remember, there's always going to be days to run, but you have to make sure your body is in condition to run. Better to take a couple days off then have to deal with pesky MONTHS of pt you know? I have been watching myown mileage recently and have to make sure I don't push too hard too fast since I have a sore left knee and ankle today. Look forward to following your progress!

From James on Sat, Nov 17, 2007 at 01:39:34

Glad your knee is doing better.

Total Distance
7.00

AM - 7 up pass University Mall into Provo and turn around just pass the Provo River Trail. Still felt some twinges in the knee and decided to take the evening off after getting home from the race. (Stratus 27)

Knee is feeling 100% yet that's for sure, but the couple days off did help a bit.

Goals for next week: once again, get my knee better.  Play it safe and smart.  Get some good runs in and bring the total for the week up if my knee lets me.  Don't freeze in SLC.  Eat a lot of turkey! 

Comments
From Mik'L on Mon, Nov 19, 2007 at 11:40:58

I like that last goal! It is definitely on my list of things to do this week!

Total Distance
15.00

AM - 5 Washington Loop reverse. Made it out of bed and ran slowly around town. With about a mile left I realized how slow I was going and picked it up a little - very little. Knee felt pretty decent today after 48 hours rest. (Cumulus red 385.15)

afternoon - 8 River Trail Loop, but stuck to the road as they are rebuilding the trail, and then came up Mall Drive.  Run was the best I've had since my knee started hurting.  With no effort at all, the whole run was under 7:00 and a couple downhill miles were at 6:00.  Pain was very minimal and only occasionally.   (Stratus 35)

Then  weights (very light on the leg lifts) and 2 miles cool down. (Landreth 454.7)

Comments
From Logan on Mon, Nov 19, 2007 at 13:39:23

Are you staying in town for Thanksgiving or taking off? I am coming down Tuesday night and would like to run with you guys a couple of times over the break.

From Dave Holt on Mon, Nov 19, 2007 at 13:52:34

I am headed up to SLC - I think Clyde is going to Torrey. Steve is headed out of town as well.

From Logan on Mon, Nov 19, 2007 at 14:17:01

Bummer!

From rdrunner on Mon, Nov 19, 2007 at 14:27:19

Hey I was reading on MarcieJ's blog that Baggs is your neighbor. I graduated with Baggs and have seen him at a couple of races over the last couple of years. Say hi to him for me and tell him he needs to join the blog. Oh by the way my name is Jeff Chatterton. I also understand you teach and coach at my alma mater Pine View. Go Panthers!! (not sure what happened at state football??) I still see Rick Palmer once in a while when the Panthers come to Vegas to play. Happy running.

From Superfly on Mon, Nov 19, 2007 at 15:08:08

I'll be home for Saturday morning's run. Who ever is going to be in town that day we should all get together. Dave are you going to be back? How do you like the Stratus? I have a pair ordered. Hopefully they will work side by side with the Cumulus.

From Dave Holt on Mon, Nov 19, 2007 at 16:04:10

rdrunner (Jeff), I'll tell Baggs hi. Do you have a younger sister - Marci? I might be off on her name, but I went to school with a Chatterton.

Clyde, I really enjoy the Startus, so far. I have only used them on three or four runs, and nothing long. But so far, so good.

I won't be back until Sunday.

From Jeff on Mon, Nov 19, 2007 at 16:12:44

My younger sister is Jennifer and she is married to Ira McArthur, they still live in St. Goerge. She graduated in 1991 from Pine View.

From Dave Holt on Mon, Nov 19, 2007 at 16:56:10

I'll have to ask my sister if she know them (she graduated in 91 as well).

I just realized the person I was thinking of had the last name of Chadburn not Chatterton - sorry.

Total Distance
19.75

AM - 5.75 Dogpound from home. Took a lot of effort to get out of bed this morning. But it always feels a lot better once you do and are done. Run was pretty decent. Took my watch to measure, and it gave me an opportunity to see how slow I run in the morning. Pretty dark out , I should probably get some sort of light so cars don't kill me. Knee pain was again very minimal. I am going to try a little longer run this afternoon. (Cumulus silver 199.8)

afternoon - 14 Fields.  I made a stupid mistake and wore my cumulus for a shorter run this morning and Precision for a longer run this afternoon.  I like the precision a lot, but I could feel the pounding by the end of the run today.  Other than that, run was pretty good, however.  I was a bit fatigued by around 8 or so and just kind of held on to it.  Did really push at any part of the run, it was more of a see if the knee can handle it run.  And for the most part, it did well.  A couple of times, I felt a slight twinge for about a 1/4 mile or so, but it faded as my mind wandered.  (Precision 99.15) 

Total Distance
13.15

AM - 13.15 Wendy's and Green Springs.  Did get to sleep in until a quarter to 6 this morning - nice!  But I also had to get a little longer run in since it is a travel day and I don't think I will want to run when I get up to SLC tonight.  So I thought I could do my own little uneventful 1/2 today, and it went alright.  Less fatigue than yesterday, but for about 1 1/2 miles around mile 9 (up in Green Springs) my hips were tired, it slowly went away however.  Also, very very little knee pain.  I don't quite dare say, "no pain," yet, but it is feeling better.  I need to make sure I keep icing even being out of my normal running routine this weekend.  I ran the course in 1:36 which is nothing special, but I made sure I never looked at my watch for anything other than distance; I did not care at all how fast/slow I went.  (Stratus 48.15)

Everyone have a great Thanksgiving!  Be grateful for your family, your health, and your love of running! 

Comments
From jtshad on Wed, Nov 21, 2007 at 10:56:58

I am glad to hear the knee pain is subsiding and that you had a good run today.

Travel safely on your trip north and have a great Thanksgiving yourself.

From Dustin on Wed, Nov 21, 2007 at 11:16:00

Have a safe trip Dave. It appears we will probably be heading to Colorado in the next day or so, my grandmother is about to die, so we'll probably have a funeral toward the end of the week. I might be able to get in a run or two at 7500 ft in the San Luis Valley. Should be nice and cool.

Total Distance
14.10

morning - 9 SLC - up onto Danish and Creek Road and then back around to Fishers'.  Run went very well for a nice easy run.  Pace was comfortably easy but still right at 7:00; no knee pains (even after waking twice with knee in pain last night); wasn't deadly cold (but still 25); and I enjoyed the scenery.  (Cumulus Silver 208.8)

evening - 5.1 Sego Lily Loop.  Turkey and Gravy vs. my guts.  The winner... it was a draw.  Somehow made it through the run even though pretty much all of Thanksgiving wanted to come back out.  Good solid hill running. (Paramount 288.7)

Comments
From steve ashbaker on Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 23:02:17

Dave, Your an animal. Sego Lily on a good day is hard enough without taking turkey and all the trimmings!

From James on Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 23:05:48

No binging and purging on the blog!

Total Distance
16.30

mid morning - 11.05 Wasatch. Pretty and pretty slow run. Didn't have a lot of juice - I think the hills of the benches are wearing me out a little; they are relentless. So I just tried to enjoy the scenery of my favorite run in the area. Knee had a little bit of an ache, and it was a little more sustained than the last day or two - iced it up, stretched, and sticked like always. (cumulus silver 219.85)

evening - 5.25 Sego Lily reverse (with a missed turn for a little extra). Decided to run the run in the opposite direction of usual hoping it would be a little easier hill-wise - it was. No knee pains on this run. Just kind of went through the motions. Ready for a decent run tomorrow and to be done for the week. (Paramount 293.95)

Total Distance
18.50

mid-morning - 18.5 Wasatch/Cottonwood Heights/Ft. Union/Dimple Dell.  It has been a little while since I ran a long run (probably since the SGM) and I had kind of forgotten how it treats you.  I did okay, however, it was just pretty slow.  Weather wasn't too chilly especially once the sun came up over the mountains - forgot to write about the awesome moon rise I watched last night as I finished up my run.  Hips were a little sore here and there, but the knee treated me alright.  I have officially earned my pink polka-dot jersey (Cyclers know what I mean) and am ready to head back to SoUT.  (Cumulus silver 238.3)

Met my biggest goal this week which was to get decent mileage in with the knee feeling good.  Also ran some good hill workouts - although not by choice - and hit a long run.

Goals for next week: Establish 100 mile weeks for the next few and get back into the swing of things for tempo runs.   

Comments
From Brent on Sun, Nov 25, 2007 at 16:16:28

thanks for the Birthday wish. Your "king of the mountain", you need to come back and defend your title. I was in Germany a few years ago when one of the legs of the Tour De France came thru. I got to see the riders (Lance) for all of about 20 seconds. I have been meaning to comment on your blog, about your positive influence on young runners. I like it, great to see the next running generation springing. Good luck on your 100 mile weeks.

From James on Sun, Nov 25, 2007 at 20:43:46

I was wondering if you hit one of your perfect days on thanksgiving, because I did.

From Dave Holt on Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 09:29:44

I was a little too stressed about getting my second run in - Once I finally relaxed and just let life flow it was good. I tend to do that at the in-laws: I'm out of my routine; they don't understand my routine; and my wife wants me to be around more (which doesn't make sense to me!).

Total Distance
20.65

AM - 7.15 Green Springs. Back at it again. Woke up good, and weather was nice. Run went smoothly with only minor tightness in the knee. (Precision 106.3)

afternoon - 12 River Trail to DC and back. Run was going well with splits around 6:45-50 on the way down. Turned around and headed back and then realized I was supposed to be hitting some Tempo miles, so I got speed up and then hit the lap button. First was 5:48 - pretty good on the 2% steady incline back up the river. Then I hit a 6:09 which included a short but steep hill to connect back to Riverside Dr (I did notice that the trail may be finished, however. And I am going to go explore to see on Weds.) At this point I wanted to stop, but decided to keep it moving as best as possible. On Riverside the uphill continued and my time slipped more; until the last .2 when it evened out and I brought it back down to 6:09 again. Here I decided to go until I hit the big climb back up 2450 to PVHS - I thought it might be about .75 miles - was about right, so I pushed up the hill to hit the full mile (since I was actually supposed to do 5 tempo miles and this would only make 4) and hit it in 6:11. Wasn't the best Tempo run ever, but I did it and got the legs moving, lungs breathing, and heart racing. I am not as fast as I was a couple months ago, but that is okay. I'll keep the mileage steady near 100 and start bringing in a little more tempo. (Stratus 60.15). Then weights (took leg lifts a little higher, but still less than usual) and 1.5 more miles of cool down (cumulus 483.55)

Comments
From Wildbull on Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 16:08:02

Super getting out in the morning! I must start doing the same soon. my waste is feeling the pressure of the Holidays!

From Dave Holt on Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 16:54:56

My waste isn't the only thing feeling pressure from the holidays!

I don't know what that really means!

From superfly on Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 16:58:32

Are you guys speaking english? Or is this a code talk going on here?

From Wildbull on Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 17:42:41

I think he is talking about his fat teacher wallet feeling pressure from the holidays!

From ? on Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 20:08:01

Waist?

From Dave Holt on Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 09:51:57

It is a little disturbing that neither of us caught that waste/waist mishap there - or maybe that is what we meant?

Total Distance
14.00

AM - 5 Washington Loop. Nice run. A little sore from not using the stick after yesterday's workout like usual. (Cumulus red 390.15)

afternoon - 9 GS/PL/Middleton.  Hadn't been out on the trail in a while; it was nice.  Unfortunately, I had developed a pinched nerve in my back throughout the day and it was giving me a lot of problems.  As I started the run with Ruth I wasn't sure I was going to be able to go too far - but it actually started to loosen up a little throughout the run.  (Paramount 302.95) 

Comments
From WILDBULL on Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 10:58:15

what do you do with that stick? good job getting out.

From Clyderunner on Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 13:35:08

I work with James and he gave me your blog address - I am getting back into running myself, a little larger sized than you - but soon to be competitive again! Keep it strong!

Total Distance
16.00

afternoon - 10 River Trail.  New section of the trail is finished (hooray).  Run was tough; I was very tired and tight.  Stopped on the way back and stretched for a few minutes and things started to feel better just as I finished up.  (Cumulus silver 248.3)  Then 6 x barefoot grass striders.  I have really got to get these back into the weekly routine.  My hips felt off and painful.

evening - 5 treadmill @ 1%.  Needed to hit my 5 from this morning (back was hurting so bad last night I couldn't sleep - so when I finally fell asleep, I slept in).  Took it easy at only 7:30 and just tried to relax.  (Cumulus orange 407.3) 

Total Distance
17.10

mid morning - 5 Mall Run. I have been very tired lately, and once again I couldn't get up - I can't be so lazy about it and need to just do it. So I sneaked off during my prep and got a quick 5 in. (Precision 111.3)

evening - 12.1 Club run down SC Parkway Trail to Ivins and back.  Came in with a very negative attitude (not about running, but about life), but the run helped me think about a few things (not to be such a moron and to get rid of my wo-is-me attitude).  Started off with the large group (16 or so runners).  Chatted with Steve for awhile and then ran with Ken for awhile.  Then found myself alone as everyone headed back.  Planned on going 5.5 out, but had to extend to the church to find a restroom and suddenly Hayden was there.  Planned on coming back at a progressive tempo (2 at 6:30, 2 at 6:00, 2 at 5:45).  Hit 6:29 and 6:20 with Hayden then he fell back after working hard to catch up in the first place.  Then went 5:58 and 5:55.  The last two were the last rolling mile of the trail and then the incline up to the store, hit a 5:52 and 5:50 (was pleased because on flat these times would be under 5:40).  Felt good to move a little and enjoy a run.  (Stratus 72.25)

Comments
From josse on Thu, Nov 29, 2007 at 13:50:51

I hate those tired times, I think we go through them periodicly. Winter time seems to bring it on as well. Rest up and feel better.

From Dustin on Thu, Nov 29, 2007 at 14:34:28

That is one nice thing about the block schedule. I'm still struggling with my hip problems, I just wish it would get better.

From Chris Weidman on Thu, Nov 29, 2007 at 14:47:31

you need a time out dave! a weeks worth - your body is exhausted and needs you to take care of it - so listen to it!

From ryan on Thu, Nov 29, 2007 at 21:49:20

hey dave,

i tend to agree with the last guy. you probably need some rest. i know you are worried about keeping your fitness but may be you should focus on quality and not quantity of mileage for a week or two. your commitment to running is awesome. good luck.

From Dave Holt on Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 09:33:26

Next week I'm planning on taking it down just a little to refresh the ol' legs and brain.

Total Distance
15.00

AM - 5 on Washington Loop. Slept good and woke up easy this morning - very nice. Run was slow and relaxed, just what I wanted. Not as cold out because of the cloud cover. (Precision 116.3)

afternoon - 10 I'll just call this the Mud Run.  It had been raining for hours and hours straight, so at first I thought about avoiding any dirt.  But the more I got going the more fun it sounded.  So I went out from PVHS on the Parkway 8 miler, then instead of dropping under the freeway, I went up tortoise fence road and across on to the golf course and back.  The mud was amazing.  For about 4 miles every step I took was an adventure.  I was slipping and my shoes were attempting to be sucked off.  My legs were absolutely covered in mud.  It felt like I was in some extreme cross-country race; it was awesome.  (Paramount 312.95)
 

Comments
From Dustin on Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 10:01:30

Good run last night. I think we all get a little stressed now and then. It does get challenging trying to balance everything. But you are probably doing a lot better at things than you think or give yourself credit for.

From Jeff on Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 19:07:04

No Christmas tree for me today. Hope you have better luck than me tomorrow!

Total Distance
18.00

morning - 18 Quail.  STILL raining in the morning.  I've never seen it rain for this long in So Ut.  So I went out on my Quail Creek run, but made it an out-and-back at the 9 mile mark because I knew the stream would be running very high and I wouldn't be able to cross it.  There was water flowing everywhere - great!  Run was pretty good.  Didn't time it, but noticed the clock when I got back and had a by it, had a better run that last week's 18.  (Stratus 90.25)

Got to 100 this week!  Also hit a few good tempo runs, so I feel good about that.  And most importantly - had a blast in the mud and rain!

Goals for next week:  After building for three weeks, I am taking this week back a little (90), Hit some solid mile work on Monday (got to get a little hard turnover for the 1/2 in a month), and finally, try not to stress so much about everything. 

Total Distance
15.50

AM - 7.15 Green Springs. Week started well with a very very slow easy run this morning. I wasn't really tired, but the whole run was just slow. That's okay, though, we all have some of those. (Cumulus red 397.3)

afternoon - 7.6 (3xmiles). Warm up out to Cemetery Loop from PVHS - 2.1 miles. Heading out, I doubted how well I was going to do on these miles; my mind wasn't into it and neither was my body - then I began to doubt if I even was going to do them, but I decided to just give it a shot and see what happened even if it meant having some slower repeats. Started off on the first one going pretty well. I didn't look at my watch until the corner that is about .75 into it and I was pleasantly surprised enough to keep pushing and ended up with a 5:24. Took a short jog recovery (2:00) and started out on the 2nd. Was even more surprised to find I was faster than the first at my check point. Ended up hitting 5:20 even though I thought I was going slower. Recovery jog again, and started on #3. Again I felt tired, and I just knew I was blowing it. But I kept trying to push and ended up with 5:24 again. Three very good times on this mile course - especially having not done any for a few months. Then jogged back to school. (Precision 123.9)

Weights - felt a little better than usual, even though, again I had to convince myself to do them. Then just a shorter cool down of 1 grass loop - .75 miles (Landreth 455.45)

Total Distance
13.10

AM - 5 Washington Loop. A bit sluggish - couldn't be from the pounds of candy I ate last night making gingerbread houses! (Paramount 317.95)

afternoon - 8.1 River Run.  Ran with Ruth and chatted about various running things.  Good easy pace, but I wanted to be done with a couple to go - heart wasn't fully there today.  (Cumulus silver 256.4) 

Comments
From James Holt on Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 11:58:09

Pounds? Metric tons is more like it :)

From Chris Weidman on Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 12:37:16

someone say tons of candy!...and I missed it!

From Dave Holt on Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 13:08:43

It was a wild decorating party at the ol' Holt household last night Chris, you should have been there. Maybe then we wouldn't have so much left over. But I bet if you just go to James' office you'll find a little stash!

From ArmyRunner on Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 13:22:47

Dave,

Did you get my email about the Del Sol Relay Team? If not let me know and I will send again.

From Logan on Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 14:34:38

You had to rub in the fact you were running in a short sleeve shirt!

From MichelleL on Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 17:55:21

Hey love the name of your blog. Haven't seen it before.

Total Distance
16.70

AM - 5 Washington Loop. I could run this loop in my sleep - and that's what I do most of the time! I do try to mix it up a bit with direction and when I add the extension (first or last), and I haven't been burned out with it yet. (Cumulus orange 412.3)

afternoon - 9 GS/PL/Midd reverse. Planned on going just 7, but I couldn't think of any good seven milers to go on. So I headed out toward Middleton, and I got tempted by the trails. They were nice and soft and compact from the recent rains.

a little later later in the afternoon/evening now - 2.7 PVHS to home. My POS Jeep wouldn't start. So I fought with it for awhile, tried to jump it, then just gave up and ran home. (Stratus 101.95)

Comments
From Jeff on Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 09:46:24

Last week you ran more than I did for the month of November.

From Jeff on Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 09:47:01

Last week you ran more than I did in the whole month of November.

From James on Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 11:08:44

You have to run alot if you live in "Dogtown." You take your life in your hands just getting to your car. Have you seen those roving packs? Its scary.

From ryan on Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 01:02:32

hey dave are their any benefits to running bare foot in the snow. i live in cedar city. JK.

Total Distance
11.75

afternoon - 11 River Trail.  Ran with Gooldilocks and had a very interesting discussion with him about religion of all topics.  Who knows, maybe he really is straightening things out - it would be very good for him.  The run was solid.  He hadn't run 11 in some time (he hadn't run in some time!), but he wouldn't turn around until I did.  He also wanted to push the pace down toward 6:20, but I kept him under control and kept it at 6:50.  On the way back he quit talking, and I could tell he was tired.  After trying to keep up, he finally just told me to keep going and he would finish eventually.  My ave. for the run was 6:56.  (Precision 134.9)

Weights - feeling a little stronger.

Then .75 cool down (Landreth 456.2) 

Comments
From Mik'L on Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 11:43:58

Gooldilocks...that is a good name for him. I think Clyde has recruited one of our YM to come run track this year. He called Clyde to see what he could be doing now to get ready for the season. His name is Taylor Stout (and he and Sharise are pretty tight, so maybe she'll come out more often!). Clyde told him to stop by and see you.

From Wildbull on Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 13:31:44

I like that new nick name for him! it sounds like a 60ish style type of guy! your cranking in the miles!

From James on Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 19:05:32

Dave,

57.05 miles for the week? Shame on you for being spiteful toward your teamate's harassment. Shame, Shame, Shame!:)

Total Distance
12.75

afternoon - 12.75 From PVHS out onto Coral Canyon paved trail exploring.  Good enjoyable run.  Once I got out to Coral Canyon, I hit some of their paved trails that go all-over.  The best/worst was Mt. Everest which is pretty much like its name - a monstrous climb up a bluff, at one point my Garmin was giving me a reading of over 40% for about 300 yards (peaking at 48%) holy crap!  It was fun to run with no real goal in mind for workout or course.  (Cumulus silver 269.15)

Total Distance
18.00

morning - 18 Painter's 1/2 course + 2.5 up and back on River Trail. Decided to go run the 1/2 course to get a feel for it again. Ran great - without even pushing or anything, the pace was consistently in the 6:30's give or take (I felt like Logan!). I think it was good to run the course, because I felt pretty antsy and as my mind went to the race (even though it is over a month away), I would find myself picking up. Ran the half in something like 1:25. Then went up trail with the thought in mind of doing a Tinman Finish for the last three. Right off the bat, I could tell I had put in a decent run as the finish was a little harder than planned. But kept pace good and hit a 6:01, 5:55, and 5:57. Happy with the run. (Stratus 119.95)

Good recovery week - hit solid miles, but let the body recover a bit.  PF started to hurt, but feels a little better; started to have some right knee IT band pain (which is a 1st), but it is minimal and feeling better.

Goals for next week:  Bring it back to 100!  But make sure I am keeping healthy first.  Solid Tempo run on Monday.  Hills  - get into it!
 

Comments
From Mike Warren on Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 12:04:38

Dave, you are a complete ANIMAL!!! Very nice run. I ran with you 1 time, well atleast i ran behind you that day with Steve, clyde, Bruce and Bill in Diamond valley. Keep it up, looking forward to seeing you tear it up at the Painters!!

Total Distance
20.90

AM - 7.15 Green Springs. No PF pain this morning! Best news I've heard all week. Run was alright. I may be getting a bike to ride to and from school. I think it would be fun, but it would just mean getting up about 15 mins. earlier. (Cumulus red 404.45)

afternoon - 13.75 River Trail.  Ran down to the trail 1.8 and then started 3 sets of 2 miles Tempo with mile recovery in-between.  As I started, I doubted I could hit my goal of around 5:45; I don't know why I keep having these doubts, maybe its just because I don't FEEL fast right now.  But eventually I got into the groove and it went well.  Times (from memory) 1-5:44, 2-5:51, recovery in 7:06, 3-5:31, 4-5:39, recovery in 7:07, 5-5:39, 6-5:44.  Flow was good and not too overbearing (just like a tempo should be) until the last one where I had to strain a bit keep it.  Then ran back home by way of the Mosquito Trail and Dogpound.  (Precision 148.68)

no weights today - shopping date with my daughter!  much more fun.

Comments
From Superfly on Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 14:01:14

I'm thinking about getting a bike too and just parking my car. Then just riding around town for some additional fitness.

From James on Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 14:04:48

Mountain bike or street bike?

From Superfly on Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 14:08:56

A nice mountain bike for me that I'll ride around town, but then be able to go rock jumping on the trails too.

From James on Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 14:22:03

I bit the bullet and got me a nice bike two years ago, and it was worth it. I don't ride it much right now, but when I lived in Logan I rode it all of the time.

From Dave Holt on Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 15:16:24

Mt. bike - I think I would use it more as a recreational thing (beside the ride to work) since I don't know if my wife would let me take any more time out of our life to exercise!

From Decker on Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 18:57:04

You will be like Cappy Jr. if you get a bike.

From ryan on Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 21:24:48

just get a flintstone car. oops, that is sort of what a bike is.

From Dave Holt on Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 09:15:33

Decker, I didn't think of that - then I won't be able to sing the Wizard of Oz song anymore!

From Dustin on Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 09:43:20

I got a real expensive Trek Mountain Bike when I lived in Colorado, sad to say I haven't ridden it much. Nice workout yesterday. You hit those times pretty good.

From wildbull on Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 11:00:13

I will have to ride your bike just to keep up with you on your slow days! 20 miles. I thought this was the off season! your a real machine!

From Jeff Fre on Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 01:19:18

I thought of Cappy too but didn't say anything. Last time I commented about Cappy it didn't turn out good. Good run yesterday.

Total Distance
13.00

afternoon - 12 GS/PL/WT extended.  This run was great except for one thing - this is the first time I ever wish I had music while running.  Something kept coming into my mind that has been bugging me for days, and I didn't want it there.  So to drive it off, I decided that whenever my mind strayed to that subject (which was constantly) I would put a Christmas song in my head.  Unfortunately the only Christmas song that kept coming up was John Lennon's "So This is Christmas".  For over an hour, that song kept going over, and over, and over, and over .... in my head.  AHHHHH! (Stratus 131.55)

Then 10 barefoot grass striders - probably about 75 meters long each.
 

Comments
From Superfly on Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 10:55:54

You could have had Elvis's "Have yourself a Blue Christmas". That's the only Christmas song that ever goes through my head.

From James Holt on Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 11:21:56

So the pureist would have liked to have some music huh? If Yoko had joined in I would have had to jump out in front of a car. Now ive got the freakin' song stuck in my head. Thanks.

From Dave Holt on Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 12:46:09

James, that's always the goal!

From Chris Weidman on Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 13:13:35

No song stuck in this head - I am a true ipod running purest (who can't dance the fancy dance!)

From Wildbull on Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 13:20:13

How about that song "Hey teachers leave those kids alone!" "all in all it's just another brick in the wall!

From Dave on Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 18:11:36

Bill, I don't know what you mean by that; but I don't think I like it!

Total Distance
15.30

afternoon - 8.3 Sunrise Hills x 4. Ran out to Sunrise Hill and hit 4 hills. Goal was to have them all under 2:00. Started out moderate to make sure I had some left at the end. Hit the 1st at 2:00, 2-1:56, 3-1:56, 4-1:57. Pretty pleased with the hill workout. Really made me work. Then went down Foremaster and up the Mall trail and on back to PVHS. (Cumulus silver 277.45)

evening - 7 Treadmill @ 1%.  Hit the Treadmill for the 1st time in a while, as my wife was out.  So the girls played while I ran.  7 at 7:30, just grabbing some miles.  (Paramount 324.95) 

Total Distance
19.70

AM - 7 Treadmill @ 1%. Nothing to crazy. Had to hit the treadmill again - so I just did the same thing as last night. Weight is holding steady at 150 this Holiday season as compared to last were it climbed up to 155; goal is to keep it here with healthy eating (and enjoying the occasional holiday treat!). (Cumulus red 411.45)

afternoon  - weights then 2.7 home from PVHS.  Running after lifting is not that great.  (Paramount 327.65)

evening - 10 club run up SC Parkway Trail.  Ran with Dustin for a little while, then ran by myself as not too many people were there.  (Precision 158.65) 

Comments
From Brent on Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 11:34:10

Coach Holt, thanks for the sympathy. Hey I have 5 years of cold winter running left before retirement. I expect to become a snow bird.

From Dave Holt on Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 11:40:02

Nice Brent! There are plenty of places around here, and we could use some young "snowbirds" to add to the community.

From Wildbull on Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 17:10:11

Dave. 150 pounds! I am not going to say it? You say it skinny boy!

From Mike Warren on Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 17:43:34

155 lbs!!! Wow, you were on your way to the Clydesdale division, Way to bring it back down! Are you running with the club tonight?

From Paul Petersen on Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 17:50:56

I know what you mean about winter weight. I hit 155 myself several winters ago. It was the only time in my life where I wasn't skinny!

From Mike Warren on Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 17:59:20

Paul, you guys are killing me!!! I went from 240 to 186 lbs over the last 6 months. Thought i was doing pretty good, now i find out i am not even close!! I am 6'3, i don't think i will be going much lower. We'll leave the 150's to you Fast guys!

From Paul Petersen on Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 18:07:44

eh, if it makes any difference, I am 5'9"

From Wildbull on Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 18:28:18

6'8" 150 with blue eyes. and i still have hair on my head!

From Mike Warren on Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 18:36:46

Bill, which one of your legs did you say weighs 150lbs? Hair on the back does not count "Sorry"!

From ryan on Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 21:49:38

hey dave i have been 180 pounds pretty consistant. sometimes i think that if i could just put on 20 more i could be a clydesdale. my problem is that i weigh about as much while training as i do when i am not and my waste size never changes.

From Dave Holt on Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 09:22:31

For me, this is the only place I can mention weight stuff - If I talk about it at home or mention that none of my clothes fit anymore, my wife rolls her eyes and tells me to get lost!

From Logan on Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 12:01:47

What time do you guys usually run on Thursdays for the club run? I will be down next week and would like to hook up with you guys.

From Jon on Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 12:29:39

Mike, I think Paul is down to about 120 lbs, now.

I agree with Dave- I was talking about losing weight with a tri-athlete at work the other day, and I started thinking it didn't sound to good to the people around us who would kill to be as skinny as us right now.

From Dave Holt on Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 12:37:39

Right now we are running at 5:00 from the store. Why will you only be down on Thursday?

From Dustin on Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 13:13:11

I was 136 after the marathon and 140 most of the summer. However, I've gained about 5 to 7 pounds since the marathon. Time to get moving again. When I was in college I was around 130-135. I need to get a better scale, I'm always checking my weight, but not eating healthy enough and training enough to be losing the weight right now.

From Sasha Pachev on Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 14:01:25

Nothing wrong with keeping your treats healthy. One of the falsehoods of our society that fun is not fun unless it is counterproductive. It requires more effort to find fun that builds you, and stick to only that type of fun, but it is very well worth it.

Total Distance
14.00

afternoon - 14 Fields run.  Nice easy paced run - which is all I could handle today, I think.  My legs feel a bit dead and wiped out.  (Cumulus silver 291.45)

Total Distance
13.10

morning - 13.1 Painter's Half Course.  Kind of a good run, kind of a bummer run.  Good because I started off with Dustin, Bill, and Mike - I was very happy to run with people, it is something I am really missing in my running (A year and a half ago, I would never be saying that.  Thanks Club way to change things up for me!).  But as everybody headed back at various spots, I kind of got down.  I really didn't want to be out running and was just barely poking along.  My legs were tired, and my brain was tired.  I decided I would just extend for my 18 without going into Tinman pace; then as I got back to the car, I just stopped.  I did not want to go anymore.  Running wasn't fun anymore - so I just stopped.  I think I crossed that fine line between when you have to push yourself because you maybe just don't feel like it, to the side that you start to not like what you should be loving.  So that's why I stopped.  Later in the day, I wanted to go back out for a run.  I didn't know if it was because I felt guilty or if I needed to go or if I wanted to go.  So I just went and did some other things and decided to chill out.  (Stratus 144.65)

Week started strong, but it faded to today's run.  I think one thing was, I allowed myself to sleep in a couple times when I shouldn't have and running kind of built up on me. 

Goals for next week:  Make sure I keep loving to run, make it through the difficult last week of the quarter combined with the week before Christmas break.
 

Total Distance
16.70

AM - 7.15 Green Springs. Happy to be out running again! Nothing else needs to be said. (Paramount 334.9)

afternoon - 8.8 - 4xcemetery mile.  Ran 2.1 out to cemetery and started up on miles.  Planned on doing 4 and cutting recovery to only a 1 minute jog.  First was pretty good 5:29, but I could tell I didn't have a lot of juice.  2-5:24 a little better, but still no quickness.  3-5:32 slowed a bit.  The downhill section wasn't as fast as it should have been.  About halfway through it, the limited recovery was starting to hit me.  4-5:39 Struggled taking advantage of the downhill again and legs were spent.  Then ran back to PVHS by way of Sandberg's Pond.  Okay repeats.  Never really know what to get when you increase repeats or decrease recovery, and I did both.  (Precision 167.45)

weights and then .75 jog around fields (Landreth 456.95)

Comments
From James Holt on Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 12:10:57

You cant make a comment like that and then expect that someone wont want to know whats behind it.

From Dave Holt on Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 15:44:32

Oh, just after ending last week on a sour note - happy to have a positive attitude and up enjoying the brisk morning air.

From Dustin on Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 16:35:23

Hey Dave

Hang in there. Four more days until the break. Interesting I had kind of a similar experience at the end of the run Saturday. I felt real good running with you guys, but I knew I only wanted to go around 8 to 10 miles. So I turned back a little early. The first 7 miles were great, but mile 8 by myself wasn't so hot, and by the time I got back to the Dixie Center I wasn't feeling too good, in fact I stopped and walked the last 1/4 mile. I usually don't stop and walk but I at that point I was kind of done with running for the day. Driving home I was like, man it was cold this morning, why am I doing this, but later in the day I found myself saying, boy I'm glad I went and ran this morning. Sometimes it is hard to stay motivated, but like you mentioned I think we have a good network of runners and good quality people to train with. I know being part of a running club and now this blog has really helped me to meet new people and feel like I have another family outside of my family and church group I can rely on whenever I need help.

From Superfly on Tue, Dec 18, 2007 at 11:58:37

Good miles. I just can't talk my brain or body into any type of speed right now. I just don't feel racey at all. Sometime around the end of January I'll be ready- maybe.

I didn't know you still had a pair of Landreth's kicking around. I miss those old shoes. It was like the days I put them on it was a easy run even if I pushed the pace.

If you want to plan something for Saturday morning I'll be in town. Let's do something fun if your down.

From Dave Holt on Tue, Dec 18, 2007 at 13:09:26

I'll be around - and Logan could be around as well, so...

The Landreths have so many miles on them, I just lift in them and then just do my cool down.

From bundy on Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 18:28:06

Dogtown:)

Total Distance
17.00

afternoon - 12 GS/PL/WT extended.  Nice to be back in the desert again.  Felt a little stronger than last week and was able to roll it a little better coming down Turkey Farm.  (Paramount 346.9)

evening - 5 Treadmill @1%.  Easy 5 on  treadmill while watching some college hoops.  (Cumulus red 416.45) 

Total Distance
17.00

AM - 5 Washington Loop. Pulled out of bed to a bit of a misty run. The rain was just kind of hanging in the air. Felt a bit sore and tight. (Paramount 351.9)

afternoon - 12 River Trail.  I kind of didn't want to get out and run, but reading some other blogs got me going.  I felt a bit sore and off.  A lot of the run was just kind of a countdown to when I would be done (not a good thing).  (Stratus 156.65)
 

Total Distance
17.55

AM - 5 WarmSprings down to Telegraph and Cottonmill. Hip hurt during the last night, and there was still some pain this morning. But once I got going, it actually helped loosen things up a little. Went on a different route this morning and it treated me well. I actually wanted to just keep going this morning and get a good 12 in, but I had to get to school to do grades. (Cumulus red 421.45)

evening - 12.55 GreenValley into Santa Clara with Logan.  This is why I love running!  And it couldn't have come at a more perfect time.  Started with Club and enjoyed a few miles together; then Logan and I picked it up a little and got some good miles at a solid pace - 6:50 for the whole run.  (Precision 180) 

Comments
From WildBull on Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 16:48:12

Rain dancer Dave! I am impressed with you dedication. It is all going to pay off soon!

From Brent on Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 19:24:45

Coach, you are cranking out those 17 mile days. It really takes effort to get out the door this time of year. Hip pain, IT band type or what? Dixie cup icing, good stretching?

B of BS Rools out

From Dave Holt on Fri, Dec 21, 2007 at 10:06:34

I think it might be IT band related. I've never had IT problems before, but in the last few weeks, there have been a few pains showing signs and just kind of lingering.

From Mike warren on Fri, Dec 21, 2007 at 14:42:01

Dave, Great run last night. I am always amazed how you can just drop the pedal and go when you want. With all your training, i can't wait to see how this upcoming year goes for you. Thanks for keeping us all inspired! After my knee surgery last year, my IT Band was really tight and caused some knee cap problems. I started having Steve Starley give me a deep tissue massage every two weeks. After the first two treatments i could not believe the results. I still have him come twice a month to keep things in shape. You may want to give him a try, it sure did wonders for me. Keep up the good work and have a Merry Christmas.

Total Distance
16.15

AM - 7.15 GreenSprings. Slept in just a few minutes, but still did the 7 because it's the last day before break and I don't care if I am only a little early for school. Surprised everything was not blown away by last night's storm. (Cumulus orange 419.45)

afternoon - 9 Shnobe Kibe (couldn't find the spelling of this, so that's my best attempt). Went from PVHS out across bridge into fields and around Shnobe Kibe, but the trail/road doesn't go all the way around - it ends at some industrial plant, so I had to turn around and head back. Enjoyable run though. (Stratus 165.65)

Comments
From Benn on Fri, Dec 21, 2007 at 10:15:39

Nice run. What subject do you teach? And I'm not looking forward to that storm that is now fast approaching us on the East Coast!

From Logan on Fri, Dec 21, 2007 at 12:30:55

If you are up for a run this afternoon, let me know. I have nothing planned.

From Superfly on Fri, Dec 21, 2007 at 13:17:58

I don't care where we go. You decide. Let's try to meet up at around 7 or 7:30 if that works for you guys. Let me know where?

From Wildbull on Fri, Dec 21, 2007 at 14:55:08

Nice run last night Dave. That storm last night was super charged. Sideways rain.

From steve on Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 17:04:56

Hey are you interested in run New Years Morning?

Total Distance
16.20

morning - 16.2 Coral Canyon from Clyde's with Clyde and Logan.  Logan made fun of us for being cold.  The two of them tried to kill the old man with some burning miles near the end.  6:45 ave for run.  (Cumulus silver

Total Distance
23.00

morning - 12.1 Target Loop onto Mosquito Trail. 6 miles of Tempo around the bottom of the hill and up Riverside: 6:13, 6:05, 5:46, 5:49, 6:13, 6:04. (Stratus 177.75)

afternoon - 10.9 Sandhill reverse then connect onto Dino Tracks reverse. Good desert run on a nice day. (Paramount 362.8)

Total Distance
5.00

noon - 5 on treadmill @1%. I didn't want to run at all today, but I wanted to (does that make any sense?), so I went downstairs to the treadmill to run as the girls played with Christmas; however, they ended up leaving after a minute anyway, so I slogged through 5 and decided I didn't want to run anymore. (Cumulus red 426.45)

Total Distance
15.00

morning - 15 Wasatch Drive into Draper and up 13th and Sego Lily in a snowstorm. Luckily the storm wasn't horrible, but the whole accumulation made it so I nearly died numerous times by cars that didn't want me anywhere near the road. I tried staying on the sidewalk and that was about impossible, so the turn up Sego Lily couldn't come soon enough to get out of traffic. (Cumulus Silver 306.45)

Total Distance
15.25

morning - 15.25 Through Willowcreek out to Cottonwood Heights and back and then Sego Lily loop. Run was pretty decent; kept to a little less crowded streets than yesterday, and I was able to push for about 3 miles out near Butler to around low 6 pace. (Precision 195.25)

Total Distance
20.00

morning - 12 out and back into Coral Canyon on Trails to Gilbert. Fun run, nice to be back in decent temps and run somewhere a little different. (Stratus 189.75)

evening - 8 Millcreek Trail and Warm Springs. It was dark out, but I thought it would be fun to try out my new headlamp and run into the desert. Unfortunately, a few miles out, the batteries died and I was forced to run back in the dark trying not to step in a hole and die! (Cumulus red 434.45)

Total Distance
0.00

Nothing today - I didn't want to run when the alarm went off (and since I had a full day of fence building ahead of me, I didn't think I had time later), but I didn't even do a double take.  I am going to try and get refreshed a little this weekend.

week was iffy.  I really had to push myself to run most days and that scares me.  I want to love running even when I am doing a lot of it and making myself work.

Goals for next week: get back on the horse in a positive manner. 

Total Distance
0.00

No desire to run. This was an interesting way to end the year for me. If I try and analyze why I didn't want to run Saturday and today (if only for the purpose of looking back and learning from it), I've decided it was 100% burnout. I've seen the signs coming for weeks: small nagging pains, sleeping troubles (but always tired), lack of desire. I tried to catch it a few weeks ago, but obviously I needed more. This little break hopefully leaves me feeling a little better and ready to go - although the timing of it was probably not the best for the immediate with Painter's coming up (but in the long run, things will probably be better because of it)

2007 in REVIEW:

It's that time of year again where everybody looks back at some picture montage of the wonderful, horrible, and surprising events of the year. So strap on your ipod and let's take a whirl. First off, the year was nothing but a great success. I ran the most miles I ever have (3919.7) and had a lot of fun doing it most of the time. One of the biggest keys to my success and mileage this year was staying healthy. For the most part, I stayed injury free and was able to meet all my daily and weekly goals (save a few bouts of the cold and flu and minor annoyances with PF). Because of this, my races were great. It started off with a PR in the half at Painters in January -1:14 - from there I took my 1/2 PR to high 1:10 at Bryce (and won $200!), then down to low 1:10 at my best race ever, Provo Canyon 1/2. In 10K's, I was able to break into the winner's column at Cotton Fest in May as well as run an all-time PR at the Summer Games with a 31:00 (the first race that really gave me the confidence that I could run fast). In the marathon, things were just as good or better. Ally and I had great time going to Boston and despite the weather the run was amazing, the atmosphere, the crowd, the idea of Boston. To top it all off, I ran another PR high 2:40. And that came despite a crippling slow last 10K. I guess what really topped it all of was the trip to the medic tent where my body temp was down to 90 (maybe a bit low!). All of this was a prep to run amazing at St. George. I was worried about going as fast as my goal, but I went out controlled, but hard and let it lead me to reaching exactly what I wanted a 2:26:52, a 15th place finish, and a true opportunity at hitting the Oly Trials in a few years. It has been an amazing running year with many up's and as always a few down's. But it has set the stage for more great things to come.

Thanks so much to my wonderful wife and amazing daughters for their support and time. Also to the St. George Running Center and Club, Steve and Clyde and everyone else. Without this support and push (mentally, physically, and financially) I couldn't have done it.

Total Distance
3919.70
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